Bill from NYC Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) 1) I like Robey more and more every week. He made a great play on that 3rd and 3 to hold the Chiefs to a field goal in the 2nd quarter. This kid is a keeper, and they need to sign him for a few years. 2) Kudos to CJ Spiller. The guy can make plays. Hopefully with a rest he will get to full speed. 3) The middle of the Bills DL did everything I asked of them. They were not at all the problem today. 4) Question for all.....who would you rather have on your football team, Jairus Byrd or Aaron Williams? Place me in the Williams camp. And let me be the first one to admit that I thought he sucked, and was a wasted pick. He not only is a talented safety, he goes balls to the wall on every play. 5) Two passes just after the deuce at the half while KC had 2 timeouts and then an incompletion? They left the Chiefs with 1:47, after burning all of 13 seconds. Is this how it works? More about Marrone later. 6) Same old story and I know it's been told. Some like jelly jelly, Some like gold. Many a man's done a terrible thing, just to get baby, a shiny diamond ring. 7) It's a shame that Tuel has a worse arm than an average high school quarterback. He does seem to feel the pass rush. That said, he should be cut, and I am talking about tonight. 8) I always did like Chandler, but he had 2 drops today that turned my stomach. It's time for another tight end folks. 9) Speaking of drops, the one by Easley was rather gut wrenching, no? 10) Help me here.....was there a worse call in NFL history than the one which resulted in a 101 yard pick six? I hate to be to critical of Saint Marrone. Wait..... this is a lie. He is an amateur. A rank amateur. He hasn't a clue. Not one freaking clue. 11) Gilmore was brutal today. How long must we wait for him to produce? Maybe we should wait for his contract to expire and slap the franchise tag on him, no? 12) HUGE shout out to Coach Petine!!! He is doing a splendid job with what he has, despite being hamstrung by the coaching on the offensive side and of course from the top. 13) On the pass on which Woods was banged up (late 3rd quarter) he was held for 5, maybe 10 yards. Am I the only one who saw this? 14) Kiko is on a fast track to being all pro. He is a pleasure to watch. 15) Lots of talent on this roster. Good quarterback play and we are a legit team, let alone a very good one. 16) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited November 3, 2013 by Bill from NYC
JStranger76 Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 All I know is if either Tuel or TJ are on the roster next year I will be very upset, and will vent here!!! lol
Big C Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Agreed with a lot of this. However: 5 - I like having both! They are both playmakers and I do truly love Williams' baller attitude. 10 - The play call was the problem? I saw a wide open Stevie and Tuel just threw it to the wrong guy. Should have been an easy TD.
PJBrown7 Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 I agree with everything except your take on coaching. IF anything Marrone, Hackett and Pettine deserve medals for what they've been able to accomplish with the circumstances given. We outplayed an undefeated team with our 4th string QB and should have won. I have n problem with the play call. In fact, if there was a 3rd straight run that failed half this board would be bithching abouty that. Tuel made a bad decision and worse throw. and trying to get points before half ESPECIALLY given how our D played today I have ZERO issue with. Again, play it safe and half or more of this board is bitching about it. Frankly I like playing to win rather thanto "not lose". I see nothing but progress. I feel we win the AFCE next year.....and will be in the mox every year going forward
KD in CA Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Agreed with a lot of this. However: 5 - I like having both! They are both playmakers and I do truly love Williams' baller attitude. 10 - The play call was the problem? I saw a wide open Stevie and Tuel just threw it to the wrong guy. Should have been an easy TD. Which would be the correct assessment if your veteran QB was playing. But if you have a undrafted rookie in his first ever start, you simply don't put him in the position of having to make a quick read/throw in traffic because of the increased risk of something bad happening. If they run the ball the worse case is a FG and a 10 point lead when the defense is shutting down everything KC tries. It's about situational awareness and the coaching staff had none on that play. And it cost Buffalo the game.
Maury Ballstein Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Stevie was open. Tuel made a terrible decision there. He overthrew an open Woods earlier in the redzone. Everyone not named Jeff Tuel played pretty well today. Lot of players brought it especially Spiller/Kiko/AW.
34-78-83 Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 10 - is so off base I don't even know how to comment on it ... Some really good points otherwise as always Bill. Coaching is the difference keeping this team going and competitive this year however. Gilmore was both good and bad today too. Touch matchup but overall he got the better of it with Bowe.
Big C Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Which would be the correct assessment if your veteran QB was playing. But if you have a undrafted rookie in his first ever start, you simply don't put him in the position of having to make a quick read/throw in traffic because of the increased risk of something bad happening. If they run the ball the worse case is a FG and a 10 point lead when the defense is shutting down everything KC tries. It's about situational awareness and the coaching staff had none on that play. And it cost Buffalo the game. I understand that point. Fair enough. 10 - is so off base I don't even know how to comment on it ... Some really good points otherwise as always Bill. Coaching is the difference keeping this team going and competitive this year however. Gilmore was both good and bad today too. Touch matchup but overall he got the better of it with Bowe. Gilmore allowed more catches than he should have, but to his credit they were only short passes. Don't think his wrist is ready to play press, which is his strength.
PearlHowardman Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 15) Lots of talent on this roster. Good quarterback play and we are a legit team, let alone a very good one. The Bills don't have a good quarterback. Moreover, if the Bills did have a good quarterback we would be providing opposing teams defensive coordinators film to plan against. Our current quarterback-by-rotation confuses opposing teams defensive coordinators because they don't know which Bills quarterback they will be playing against. It looks interesting for the Bills for a while but the Bills end up losing the game.
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Which would be the correct assessment if your veteran QB was playing. But if you have a undrafted rookie in his first ever start, you simply don't put him in the position of having to make a quick read/throw in traffic because of the increased risk of something bad happening. If they run the ball the worse case is a FG and a 10 point lead when the defense is shutting down everything KC tries. It's about situational awareness and the coaching staff had none on that play. And it cost Buffalo the game. Can't sum it up much better than this.
Bill from NYC Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 Gilmore allowed more catches than he should have, but to his credit they were only short passes. Don't think his wrist is ready to play press, which is his strength. Penalties matter too, no?
bills44 Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 How did the pass calls at the end of 2Q hurt the Bills? Regarding the Pick Six, Marrone didn't actually make the play call, did he?
Big C Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Penalties matter too, no? Yes. I am not defending Gilmore today. Thought he was the worst DB out there.
Bill from NYC Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 How did the pass calls at the end of 2Q hurt the Bills? Regarding the Pick Six, Marrone didn't actually make the play call, did he? The Chiefs had 2 timeouts. The Bills could have forced them to use them. As for the pick six, if Marrone didn't make that call, he should have. Great coaches take charge when it counts. This is what makes them great.
Hsp08 Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 17. KC Chiefs are in for a rude awakening in Denver in a few weeks.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Everyone not named Jeff Tuel played pretty well today. Are you serious?
John Adams Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 10 - is so off base I don't even know how to comment on it ... Some really good points otherwise as always Bill. Coaching is the difference keeping this team going and competitive this year however. Gilmore was both good and bad today too. Touch matchup but overall he got the better of it with Bowe. I'm not ready to give up on Gilmore but he was the worst player in the secondary today. If you didn't see that, you weren't watching. With Manuel, this is a win. RE Byrd, the Bills look pretty smart for avoiding the franchise tag. He is good. He's not great. I doubt the Bills can keep him after that hold out but I hope so.
Reed83HOF Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Marrone: "I'm freaking going to ... I'm pissed. I'm going to use that energy, and I'm going to go home. I'm not going to talk to anybody. I'm just going to shut it down, be by myself. I'm not going to pet my dog. I'm going to get fired up, and I'm going to come to work tomorrow. I'm going to watch this film. "I'm going to be a pro. I'm going to be a man. I'm just going to look at it. What can we do better? How do we coach things better situationally? What can I do first? What can the coaches do second? "We're going to work and get ready to go. I mean, we're not out of the playoffs. We're a good football team that's not making the plays that it has to make. We play extremely hard. We fight through adversity. But we're just not making the plays at the times we need to make it, and that's everybody."
John Adams Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 The Chiefs had 2 timeouts. The Bills could have forced them to use them. As for the pick six, if Marrone didn't make that call, he should have. Great coaches take charge when it counts. This is what makes them great. Interesting. I blame Tuel. I know the argument that they should have been more conservative and settled for 3 but you have to have a little faith that your QB won't make a bad decision there. I mean, even if he takes a sack, it's a pretty easy FG. HTuel just screwed the pooch. I don't mind if he's the 3rd stringer from here on out but please let's not see him on the field again this year.
bills44 Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 The Chiefs had 2 timeouts. The Bills could have forced them to use them. As for the pick six, if Marrone didn't make that call, he should have. Great coaches take charge when it counts. This is what makes them great. Right, but it's not as if the Chiefs did anything with the ball on the ensuing possession, and they had shown an inability to move the ball to that point. I don't know who made the 3rd down call, but, IMO, it's grasping at straws to hold Marrone responsible for a bad play call.
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