BuffaloBillsForever Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) With percentages favoring the offense, Marrone should have communicated with Hackett on 1st down to run the ball on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down as we will be going for it on the 4th down. Edited November 3, 2013 by BuffaloBillsForever
G-Daddy Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) How about a QB bootleg? Even gimpy Manning scored on one earlier this year. This new analytic guy has plenty of work to do. Edited November 3, 2013 by DGW54321
Wayne Cubed Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 With percentages favoring the offense, Marrone should have communicated with Hackett on 1st down to run the ball on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down as we will be going for it on the 4th down, ( Cincinnati game?
BillnutinHouston Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Thread of the day. This was the series that lost us the football game, and it's all on the coaches.
MDH Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Why does this team never run a QB sneak? I don't think I've ever seen a QB injured on a QB sneak before so "protecting the QB" goes out the window as one of the reasons.
bills44 Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Cincinnati game? Yep. 5 runs, and 0 yards. If only we had gained 2 total yards on any of those 5 plays... Still, I hated the play call today.
zonabb Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 If youre gonna talk Analytics, show us the probabilities for each play. Just stating "analytics" doesn't automatically make your argument credible, sorry. I'm so sick of analytical being used by everyone when 99% of the population couldn't explain even the simplest statistical method.
MDH Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Cincinnati game? I'm of the opinion that you still run it 3 times unless you have a QB back there that you really trust. If you're going to throw it with a young QB you match up your big WR on the outside and throw a fade on 1st or 2nd down. Unfortunately the Bills don't have a big WR so just run the damn ball.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 Yep. 5 runs, and 0 yards. If only we had gained 2 total yards on any of those 5 plays... Still, I hated the play call today. Irrelevant, Percentages still heavily favor the offense in this situation.
Wayne Cubed Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 I'm of the opinion that you still run it 3 times unless you have a QB back there that you really trust. If you're going to throw it with a young QB you match up your big WR on the outside and throw a fade on 1st or 2nd down. Unfortunately the Bills don't have a big WR so just run the damn ball. Stevie was wide open. It was the right call, Tuel read it wrong.
GG Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 They passed on the second down where Chandler drew a penalty. I don't have a big problem with runs on first three downs at the 1 yd line I do have a problem with the formation they run out of. It's become very predictable.
Boatdrinks Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 With percentages favoring the offense, Marrone should have communicated with Hackett on 1st down to run the ball on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down as we will be going for it on the 4th down., Don't know if they would have gone for it, but too trusting of your green QB to make a throw over the middle there? I always like lining up with two TE's (like they did on downs 1 and 2) have the TE block down and release into EZ and a nice play fake by the QB. It works or not, but not gonna be a 100 yd INT return.
BreezeMafia Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 With percentages favoring the offense, Marrone should have communicated with Hackett on 1st down to run the ball on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down as we will be going for it on the 4th down. You could be a freshman at any high school across the country and realize that you don't call a pass play at that moment, especially when you have a rookie QB and having KC on the Ropes. This is a play call that should get people fired. But of course Marrone will protect Hackett. Way to go Doug. Way to go Hackett. And way to go Russ. Great job guys. Great.
KD in CA Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Thread of the day. This was the series that lost us the football game, and it's all on the coaches. Yup. They rushed for what, 200 yards today? But they decide to get cute on the goal line with a virgin QB. Even a FG there puts them up by 10.
bills44 Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Irrelevant, Percentages still heavily favor the offense in this situation. In theory, I agree with you, and I think that given the circumstances today, a run was absolutely the correct call on 3rd down in that situation. But, given this offense's track record, who gets the ball in that situation?
MDH Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Stevie was wide open. It was the right call, Tuel read it wrong. That's why you don't do it with a rookie QB in his first game starting. It obviously wasn't the right call because their young QB wasn't able to make the correct read.
Dean Cain Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Terrible coaching. Poor scheme. Been running the same goal line plays all year. 3-6, win a game, no moral victories.
Boatdrinks Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Stevie was wide open. It was the right call, Tuel read it wrong. Stevie was wide open. It was the right call, Tuel read it wrong. Don't know if the DB blew the coverage or jumped the slant to the inside, but SJ was wide open. What Tuel did there was make up his mind at the line where he was going to throw it. A cardinal sin. He was gifted a TD if he read the defense, but instead he decides pre-snap and throws a pick-six. Perhaps Hackett should've called a lower risk pass such as a fade. Low % pass, but low % of a turnover.
Wayne Cubed Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) That's why you don't do it with a rookie QB in his first game starting. It obviously wasn't the right call because their young QB wasn't able to make the correct read. So it's ok for him to make a deep pass for a TD (the Goodwin one) but we shouldn't ask him to make a read like at the goal line? Edited November 3, 2013 by Wayne Cubed
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 If youre gonna talk Analytics, show us the probabilities for each play. Just stating "analytics" doesn't automatically make your argument credible, sorry. I'm so sick of analytical being used by everyone when 99% of the population couldn't explain even the simplest statistical method. Thank you one week and it's Hackett is run run run predictable, He throws for it on first down and now he is pass happy. I thought was a great play call poorly executed.
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