BuffaloBaumer Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 My brother in law knows Josh Kraft very well in Boston and during dinner a couple nights ago, he said the Pats were hoping to get him. Thought that was interesting...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 My brother in law knows Josh Kraft very well in Boston and during dinner a couple nights ago, he said the Pats were hoping to get him. Thought that was interesting...... Interesting bit of info--thanks! However, this is almost a bad thing. The Patriots are not very good evaluators of talent. They lucked out on a 6th round pick in Brady, and everyone thinks they know what they are doing. They probably have more draft busts than we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 My brother in law knows Josh Kraft very well in Boston and during dinner a couple nights ago, he said the Pats were hoping to get him. Thought that was interesting...... i guess the next question is where were they hoping to get him? almost certainly not in the first round or two, id have to assume. generally just hoping hed slide and be a good value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 More than anything...what does this say for how they feel about Bradys future? Are they already looking to groom his replacement? Do they think Brady is declining and his days are numbered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 OK... to back up Brady for the next 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 More than anything...what does this say for how they feel about Bradys Mallet's future? Are they already looking to groom his replacement? Do they think Brady is declining and his days are numbered? Oh so many people here wanted that guy...what a bum he's been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 More than anything...what does this say for how they feel about Bradys future? Are they already looking to groom his replacement? Do they think Brady is declining and his days are numbered? you could on the flipside argue that bradys going to outlast mallets contract (or dont love mallet) so they may be willing to take a shot on the next backup/guy of the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 To me it says that Brady has only a couple of years left. EJ was a high ceiling guy when he came out but a project. He wasn't Andrew Luck ready. Maybe their thought was let try to get this guy (in the 2nd is my guess) and develop him for 2 years a la Aaron Rodgers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Oh so many people here wanted that guy...what a bum he's been. Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Based on what? In 12 career plays, he's netted 10 yards and an interception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Manuel seem to be pretty good at calling plays and spotting the open receiver but his out pattern and over the top throws are weak. Brady came into the league with the same type of strengths and weaknesses though his natural arm strength does not compare with EJs.. Brady's progress as a passer throughout his career has been remarkable and there is no comparable QB in that regard. It's almost as if he grew a better arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 In 12 career plays, he's netted 10 yards and an interception. Small sample size but you make a compelling point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 i guess the next question is where were they hoping to get him? almost certainly not in the first round or two, id have to assume. generally just hoping hed slide and be a good value? the 6th round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 OK... to back up Brady for the next 5 years? It will be much sooner than that. Oh so many people here wanted that guy...what a bum he's been. Yep. He's not their answer. Thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Ya know, by '96 Kelly was taking his lumps behind an aging line and on a team in its delcine, even though they made it to the playoffs in his final year...and he was 36, but he know the writing was on the wall for him and his team and he knew when to get out. It just makes me wonder how much of that competitive fire I-want-to-play-until-I'm-40 Brady will have if this team starts to seriously slide and he gets knocked around a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Manuel seem to be pretty good at calling plays and spotting the open receiver but his out pattern and over the top throws are weak. Brady came into the league with the same type of strengths and weaknesses though his natural arm strength does not compare with EJs.. Brady's progress as a passer throughout his career has been remarkable and there is no comparable QB in that regard. It's almost as if he grew a better arm. Amazing what lower body mechanics can do, huh? I'm hoping that's the focal point of EJ's offseason...in perpetuity. Small sample size but you make a compelling point... Yeah, and having actually WATCHED those snaps...eesh. Not pretty. I mean, 1-4 with an interception, which--IIRC--was laser to a receiver four yards away that ricocheted 10 yards down field into the FS's waiting arms. His preseason passes have looked similar. All zip, no touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 Just spoke to him again and it sounds like the idea was to groom him behind Brady. Looks like there is BIG concern over Brady's accuracy right now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 To me it says that Brady has only a couple of years left. EJ was a high ceiling guy when he came out but a project. He wasn't Andrew Luck ready. Maybe their thought was let try to get this guy (in the 2nd is my guess) and develop him for 2 years a la Aaron Rodgers? Makes sense, I just thought Brady had a lot longer left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Manuel seem to be pretty good at calling plays and spotting the open receiver but his out pattern and over the top throws are weak. Brady came into the league with the same type of strengths and weaknesses though his natural arm strength does not compare with EJs.. Brady's progress as a passer throughout his career has been remarkable and there is no comparable QB in that regard. It's almost as if he grew a better arm. Manuel needs to study tape on guys like Manning and Brees & their footwork. His completion % would soar if he set his feet more. And it's pretty obvious why coaches would like Manuel. He has all the tools and carries himself like a grown @ss man. And as great as Belichick has been since they lucked out on Brady, he hasn't exactly been known as QB guru. Still apperciate the tip. Hopefully, we stole Manuel from them and it will come back to bite them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Makes sense, I just thought Brady had a lot longer left... not that I'm complaining!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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