Maury Ballstein Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Exactly what I was thinking.....nothing like Jacksonville.. bmore bills thinks EJ is close to gabbert like ? It's really not that bad.
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Your point about Jacksonville pretty much sums up what I mean....the bills are averaging 22.4 points a game...while Jacksonville is averaging 10.2...there is a gigantic margin of difference.... Not only that but I believe only 6 points in 5 games have been defensive...out of 112 You need perspective. Dan Carpenter has made 11 field goals, and we've never scored more than 2 touchdowns in a game yet. Is that success to you on offense??? Not to me. Comparing them to Jacksonville may be too extreme, but we're just not taking advantage of what our defense gives us. Exactly what I was thinking.....nothing like Jacksonville.. bmore bills thinks EJ is close to gabbert like ? It's really not that bad. The offensive execution has been poor with the talent we have... the proof is in the pudding, not how we expect things to be.
Wayne Cubed Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 It's actually VERY impressive what Geno Smith is doing considering his only weapon on offense is Holmes and perhaps Hill who are both injured. EJ has a lot more talent around him in Spiller, Jackson, Johnson, Chandler. EJ hasn't looked very good in the passing game, especially on the deep ball and the throws to wide open receivers and tight ends. He looked good last night. Did he look impressive versus Tennessee? How about New England? How about Tampa Bay? The guy had a good game last night, but lets not go generalizing his season based on 1 game. Consistency.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 He looked good last night. Did he look impressive versus Tennessee? How about New England? How about Tampa Bay? The guy had a good game last night, but lets not go generalizing his season based on 1 game. Consistency. You forgot to mention Buffalo? Working with less, Smith is playing better, showing a more accurate arm. Smith is also gaining experience while Manuel is sitting on the bench. I can't stress it enough how the injury problem is a big concern with EJ going forward.
QCity Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 He looked good last night. Did he look impressive versus Tennessee? How about New England? How about Tampa Bay? The guy had a good game last night, but lets not go generalizing his season based on 1 game. Consistency. TBD posters have mastered the art of blowing 1 game out of proportion.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) TBD posters have mastered the art of blowing 1 game out of proportion. I'm basing it off the body of work. It's a small sample but Smith showing he can make the throws down field...EJ not so much EJ injury prone.. It also begs the question about Hackett, Smith is outplaying EJ with MUCH less weapons at his disposal. Could part of the problem be Hacketts poor scheme? Edited October 8, 2013 by BuffaloBillsForever
Meatloaf Sandwich Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Should they have taken Geno? I am more concerned about Atlanta's defense. They have been horrible this year, not like they have been great before.
Wayne Cubed Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 I'm basing it off the body of work. It's a small sample but Smith showing he can make the throws down field...EJ not so much EJ injury prone.. It also begs the question about Hackett, Smith is outplaying EJ with MUCH less weapons at his disposal. Could part of the problem be Hacketts poor scheme? I don't get the injury prone comment... What player wouldn't have gotten injured from that hit in Cleveland? It's not like he's brittle, he got injured on a play that 99% of players would get hurt.
thebandit27 Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Remember half way through the 1998 season when San Diego got the better of the draft by picking Leaf after Indy erred in taking Manning? Me too. I'm basing it off the body of work. It's a small sample but Smith showing he can make the throws down field...EJ not so much EJ injury prone.. It also begs the question about Hackett, Smith is outplaying EJ with MUCH less weapons at his disposal. Could part of the problem be Hacketts poor scheme? Actually, EJ's downfield throws have been fine when he sets his feet and delivers...it's a mechanics issue that he'll get worked out over time.
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Actually, EJ's downfield throws have been fine when he sets his feet and delivers...it's a mechanics issue that he'll get worked out over time. WHO exactly is going to work out his mechanics besides Hackett, who hasn't developed JACK for a QB in the NFL... Tuel? Lewis? Ohh, that's right... we don't have an experienced veteran to help him through all of it. Yeah... W.T.F.?????
IDBillzFan Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 I don't get the injury prone comment... That's because he's not injury prone. Some folks just need to have the worst in front of them.
eball Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Ryan Fitzpatrick - very careful, not taking many chances, but shows excellent presence and is a natural leader Jim Kelly - more of a gunslinger, throws a pretty ball, and takes chances Discuss. You conveniently ignored the fact that Jim had great pocket presence, and everybody knows Fitz is a total gunslinger. Try again.
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 You conveniently ignored the fact that Jim had great pocket presence, and everybody knows Fitz is a total gunslinger. Try again. We moved on to this: WHO exactly is going to work out his mechanics besides Hackett, who hasn't developed JACK for a QB in the NFL... Tuel? Lewis? Ohh, that's right... we don't have an experienced veteran to help him through all of it. Yeah... W.T.F.?????
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) I don't get the injury prone comment... What player wouldn't have gotten injured from that hit in Cleveland? It's not like he's brittle, he got injured on a play that 99% of players would get hurt. What are you talking about. He was injured the majority of the preseason. If you take that into account, he has been injured in almost as many games as he played. It will probably be more after he heals from the injury. That's the definition of injury prone. Edited October 8, 2013 by BuffaloBillsForever
Kemp Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Anyone who would not prefer Geno over EJ based on what they have seen so far is lying to themselves. It could change, but so far, no contest. Geno made big mistakes but looks like a natural passer. EJ often looks clunky in his passing mechanics and his accuracy has been poor.
Bufcomments Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 It's still to early to say but Geno does look to be picking up things, he does have a much better long ball than EJ does but I still like E.J. Once E.J. learns how to run out of bounds and not hurt his team by taking those big hits he will be fine. Still say if E.J. plays the whole game in Cleveland we win. We will be alright. We draft a guard for him next year and this offense is gonna be stout.
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Geno has no fear of throwing the bal down the field and also throws much harder than our girly arm guy. Smith looks like a gun slinger to me. Our guy looks hesiotant, that being said Geno has a much better offense they run even withoiut any NFL receivers...Once again we took the wrong guy.
thebandit27 Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 WHO exactly is going to work out his mechanics besides Hackett, who hasn't developed JACK for a QB in the NFL... Tuel? Lewis? Ohh, that's right... we don't have an experienced veteran to help him through all of it. Yeah... W.T.F.????? So it's your opinion that there is no such thing as improvement via coaching? Or is your well-detailed "WTF" the product of being certain that Hackett can't develop a QB? Sounds as though you didn't follow his career pre-Bills, or notice the improvement in Nassib's play during his Syracuse career. Yes, EJ can get the coaching he needs from Hackett. The guy does know offense, and I think it's fair to give him more than 1/3 of a season to find his way as a coach.
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