Did the Bills make a gaffe choosing Manuel over Smith?

[CodeMonkey]

Should they have taken Geno?

I'll let you know in about 3 years.

[Coach Tuesday]

The Bills gaffed by gambling with a rookie OC, no left guard, expelling two competent veteran backup QBs in the preseason, provoking a fight with their best player on defense, and hiring a crony to coach the special teams. Those gambles have blown up in their faces, big time. It's the typical Buffalo Bills confluence of bad luck combined with stupidity.

 

EJ is not the problem.

Edited October 8, 2013 by Coach Tuesday

[YoloinOhio]

statistically they are TIED:

 

passer rating rank:

#23- Smith

#24- EJ

 

QBR :

#21- Smith

#23- EJ

Falcons are ranked LAST in the NFL in opposing QBR. That is all.

 

The rest of the teams who needed a QB did not have Geno in the 1st round. Just because a survey of a whopping 4 NFL teams said they didn't have a 1st round grade on EJ doesn't mean he isn't worthy of being drafted there.

[paupmvp1995]

The Jets offense is way more sophisticated than ours with multiple formations, personnel groupings,motion, misdirection, and high percentage pass plays that keep the defense off balance and guessing which increases their probability for success. It has more to do with the design of the offense then the QB.

Great analysis of the Jets. I was at the Falcons-Jets game last nite, and the Jets had receivers wide open all over the field. When Geno has time he is very accurate. When he is rushed he hesitates and is not overly elusive and goes down easily. The Jets offense is constantly substituting 3 players on almost every play. #87 Cumberland is a player. He is big and fast and can get down the seam. (The Falcons pass defense down the middle of the field is atrocious btw) The Bills passing scheme is lousy. Watch the replay on a lot of plays and noone is running a route more than 10 yards down the field. Stevie Johnson is running 4-5 yard crosses and turn ins. What other team has their best WR doing that? There is no verticality to the passing game. That being said EJ looks raw. He has potential, but the jury is out. His accuracy is not what it should be in an NFL starting QB. Will he get better-that remains to be seen. Lets hope so. But some better receivers would sure help. This teams biggest need, more than a corner or a LG is a big receiver w speed, and a TE w speed. With our aggressive D, a team like Denver would never lose..

[BigBuff423]

I'll say that I like EJ better in the long run, but Geno played well last night, there's no debating that. Is he ready to have his bust put in the Hall of Fame?? Absolutely not! Did he play well last night, and last night only, Yes. Let's leave long-term projections in their place...time will tell....will Geno have a better career than EJ? If you know that, go to Vegas, and put a year's salary on whatever number / game you're thinking, because you obviously have much better foresight than most of the GMs in the NFL...otherwise, let's just see how each develops over the next 3 seasons....

[RevWarRifleman]

Should they have taken Geno?

NO! End of story.

[Storm Front]

The Bills shouldn't have taken either one of them.

[Kellyto83TD]

dude,

did you see the comedy of errors by Geno Smith prior to the game?

 

The Jets have a BF2 with Gino, that's butt fumble 2.

 

He has a long ball pass that defenses are allowing. does that mean he's great, or does it mean that the defenses he plays have sucked on deep plays.

 

I go with the latter

 

Humm Jets were supposed to be a Dumpster fire this year, what is their record, what is the Bills? EJ was supposed to be this great, smart QB and a really nice guy. Geno a thug with an attitude. Right now give me the Thug with the attitude.

 

I am sick of nice guys. Give me a team of pure !@#$s that win games and hopefully a superbowl.

[Hsp08]

I think they will both mature into excellent QB's. I look forward to the rivalry in the coming years. Which ever team puts together a better team behind them will have the better career showing. A bit of the Esiason & Kelly comparison.

[eme123]

Ugghh. Is this thread serious??

 

Hey if you want Geno that bad feel free to switch alliances. See how being a Jets fan works out for you.

 

EJ is our guy. He is the guy WE chose. Get over it.

[Realist]

The biggest difference between EJ and Geno right now, is their Offensive Coordinators/Game Plans.

 

I'm happy with EJ right now, he's looked pretty good over the 5 games he played although the Jets Defensive scheme may have been too much for him, for that I give credit to Rex and his staff. Geno looked great last night against a 1-4 team and looked like crap in a couple of other games. It's still way too early to tell how all of this plays out. I love it how people are writing off EJ already. Personally, I hope they both become good/great NFL QB's and look forward to great match-ups in the future ala Kelly/Marino.

[bobobonators]

the bills made a gaffe drafting ej waaayyy too early. but thats billslike. the didnt make a mistake passing on geno---who is a highly erratic..poor decisionmaker

Base on what, a limited preseason due to injury and 5 games of the season so far? You draft on upside and hope for the best. Way too early to even have this thread.

Edited October 8, 2013 by bobobonators

[NoSaint]

Add BOTH QB's experience to date, and you have just barely more than half a season.

 

And they are both talented - contrary to many opinions on here.

 

They will have good games, they will have bad games. We will see which way each trend long term. I was a geno supporter pre-draft, but didnt think where he ended up suited him and his development well. We will see.

[bowery4]

Do people really still use the word, gaffe?

[BuffaloBillsForever]

So Geno has showed he can throw an accurate long ball. Doesn't miss wide open receivers and tight ends like EJ and has shown he is durable unlike EJ. Head to head Geno outplayed EJ.

 

5 games...short sample but Geno is playing better right now. To think otherwise is being delusional.

[eball]

Everyone knows you make decisions about who was a better draft pick 5 games into their rookie seasons.

 

Duh.

[Wayne Cubed]

So Geno has showed he can throw an accurate long ball. Doesn't miss wide open receivers and tight ends like EJ and has shown he is durable unlike EJ. Head to head Geno outplayed EJ.

 

5 games...short sample but Geno is playing better right now. To think otherwise is being delusional.

 

That was this week. Who played better last week?

[zow2]

I was never a fan of Geno at all but even i can admit he has looked really good at times. I think he is a very confident kid and he throws more high risk, high reward passes down the middle of the field than EJ. I'd like to see EJ take a chance now and then to fit the ball into a tight space. Geno does it. The Bills coaches do call some downfield passes but as pointed out during telecasts, EJ checks down alot.

 

Now with this latest injury, it seems like EJ is going to have to start over in a sense, and get used to the speed of the game when he comes back. Meanwhile Geno is getting better each week and more confidence. Ugh!

[eball]

My brief assessment of EJ and Geno at this point?

 

EJ -- very careful, needs work on his feet, not taking many chances, but shows excellent presence and is a natural leader

 

Geno -- more of a gunslinger, throws a pretty ball, but has zero pocket presence and takes chances

 

Long term I still prefer EJ's qualities, because we know he has the physical tools.

[Canadian Bills Fan]

Should they have taken Geno?

 

Omg. I knew this was coming.

 

No.

 

They made the right choice with EJ

 

 

CBF