artmalibu Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Of course they are open to a trade!! They are open to trade anyone on the roster, for the right price. Until the news is the Bills are trying to make a trade happen, who cares. The conversation gets real interesting after we see him play next week.
CSBill Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Bills need a QB badly. Pat White & Dennis Dixon? May as well bring in Betty White & Donna Dixon. Now it comes out that they are open to trading Byrd. They were waiting until he was healthy. I bet it happens tomorrow. Three that I thought of: Giants need a safety. Nassib (Obviously knows Hackett/ Marrone and the offense) and a draft choice for Byrd. Raiders might sign Freeman. They sign him and we trade Byrd to the Raiders for Flynn and a draft choice. Steelers- Gradkowski or Jones for Byrd and a draft choice. They get a QB that is better than any of the free agents out there, not a starter but someone actually on a roster and a draft choice. Plus they are rid of the Byrd headache. Makes sense. pathetic! Nassib, Flynn, Gradkowski, etc., we are not serious here, right? .... an all-pro safety for guys who will probably be cut before next season starts, yeap, the formula for building a championship team.
Just in Atlanta Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 We did, his name was Kolb. What veteran worth a damn was out there that you find it staggering that we didn't pick him up? I am stunned that anyone would think that trading a pro bowl safety in his prime for a QB like Nassib who will be selling insurance in another year is a good idea, all because he "knows" this offense. I watched every game Syracuse played under Marrone and with Nassib. First, this offense is not SU's offense dressed up for the NFL. It is an offense Hackett and Marrone came up with to fit our personnel, including a QB who is 6-5 and can run, a RB with 4.3 speed and one of the craftiest route runners in the league. Nassib doesn't "know" this offense, you folks are just assuming that the offenses are similar. Second, Nassib throws a pop fly whenever he has to heave it more than 20 yards, and that was in the Carrier Dome where the weather conditions were perfect all year round. Need to re-read what I wrote. I said a trade for Nassib would be disappointing. And seriously, if you think it's wise management to not get a veteran backup after Kolb went down, I don't know what to say.
HeHateMe Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Can Nassib never be mentioned again, seriously you guys need to let that go.. He will be out of the league in 2-3 years.
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) The time to trade Byrd was before the 2013 NFL draft for a first rd pick in 2014- the Bills are like that guy who refuses to sell his car until it sits rusting in his yard a couple years losing value . The best offered was a 4th after the extension deadline passed so I highly doubt his pre draft worth was a 1st or 2nd. Edited October 7, 2013 by NDBUFFCUSEFAN
bbb Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 I wouldn't trade him for anything less than a 1st or 2nd. And, wouldn't really be happy with a 2nd.
Buftex Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 It seems like players usually do better waiting. Short term, perhaps. ESPN (I think it was Clayton) had a story in the off-season about guys in Byrds situation...they get a healthy one year salary if they are franchised...if they are traded or leave for another team, they will sign a huge deal, and more often than not, their new team has buyers remorse, either restructuring their deal, or releasing them outright...not saying these guys are going hungry, but when they sign a monster deal with a new team, they rarely see it through.
bbb Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Short term, perhaps. ESPN (I think it was Clayton) had a story in the off-season about guys in Byrds situation...they get a healthy one year salary if they are franchised...if they are traded or leave for another team, they will sign a huge deal, and more often than not, their new team has buyers remorse, either restructuring their deal, or releasing them outright...not saying these guys are going hungry, but when they sign a monster deal with a new team, they rarely see it through. Marv said it right at the very beginning of free agency. It hurts the team losing the player way more than it helps the team getting the player, in most cases.
Orton's Arm Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) Maybe will help drum up some interest in Byrd! Edited October 7, 2013 by Edwards' Arm
RussellDopeland Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 I guess if the Bills can get a 4th for Byrd, they should just do it and be done with it. The season appears to be circling the drain anyhow.
mrags Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Can Nassib never be mentioned again, seriously you guys need to let that go.. He will be out of the league in 2-3 years. somebody is gonna need a water boy.
AKA Bigdog Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 I really don't like what byrd pulled this season but I hope we don't let him go for less than a first rounder. This team can't afford to keep tossing pro bowlers to other teams for 5th round picks.
Doc Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 I really don't like what byrd pulled this season but I hope we don't let him go for less than a first rounder. This team can't afford to keep tossing pro bowlers to other teams for 5th round picks. The only player that applies to is Lynch, who wasn't playing well and had 2 strikes against him. And when his DUI case goes to court in December, he'll probably miss half the season in 2014.
AKA Bigdog Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 The only player that applies to is Lynch, who wasn't playing well and had 2 strikes against him. And when his DUI case goes to court in December, he'll probably miss half the season in 2014. I guess your right all the other pro bowlers leave during free agency. I still hope they get a 1st for him, otherwise make him play football.
BigBuff423 Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) I understand the desire to have a talented Safety, i.e. Byrd, play for the BILLS...but if the guy doesn't want to be here, why would the BILLS - and us fans - want to keep me here?? If the BILLS can get a 2nd or 3rd for him, then let him leave....malcontents on the team have no place in the locker-room.....yes, I know the Antoine Winfield, Donte Whitner arguments about how they're playing or have played so well in other places, but at the same time, we're seeing a team beginning to come together as a team, and Searcy and Williams have played nicely....not perfectly, but nicely...and when Gilmore and Brooks comeback and McKelvin is fully healed, I don't know that Byrd's demands will be met....he acted like a fool and now, he should be treated as one...trade him in season to another team and if that doesn't happen, Franchise Tag his butt again, and move him in the Off-Season before the 2014 Draft Edited October 7, 2013 by BigBuff423
BADOLBILZ Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 The only player that applies to is Lynch, who wasn't playing well and had 2 strikes against him. And when his DUI case goes to court in December, he'll probably miss half the season in 2014. McGahee was a pro bowler for the Ravens the first year they dealt him there. But of course the problem goes deeper than that with all the All Pro's lost in free agency starting all the way back to Ted Washington, Winfield, Clements, Fletcher etc... There have been A LOT. But as far as ALL PRO players.....the real cream of the crop.......Lynch, Peters and Byrd are the only three the Bills have developed in the past 13 years. If they deal Byrd that will be a perfect 3 for 3 in the fail department. Denying the truth is pointless. The team simply needs to keep it's talent.
auburnbillsbacker Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 No team can sign Byrd to an extension until after this season. Yep, so Byrd has next to no trade value right now. The bills should keep him, then apply the franchise tag on him again. That would give them a couple of months to trade him during the off season. They can't trade another Pro Bowler away for a late round pick like they did with Lynch. I realize that the Lynch situation was a little different, but the bills can't be bullied around by a player or agent. They need to be stubborn and show players that they can't force their way off of the team when they have a valid contract.
Mickey Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Need to re-read what I wrote. I said a trade for Nassib would be disappointing. And seriously, if you think it's wise management to not get a veteran backup after Kolb went down, I don't know what to say. And who exactly was available? What "veteran" was out there so bad he couldn't make a roster yet would be such a huge improvement over Tuel or Lewis?I have heard a lot of criticism about not signing a "veteran" after Kolb was injured but I haven't heard anyone come up with the name of an actual veteran they think the Bills screwed up by not signing. Who is this mythical "Veteran QB"? Leinert? Jimmy Clausen? Losman? Trent? Carr? Leftwich? The inconvenient truth here is that any QB worth a roster spot in the NFL already has one. I guess if the Bills can get a 4th for Byrd, they should just do it and be done with it. The season appears to be circling the drain anyhow. A pro bowler in his prime for a 4th round pick? Masterful. Brilliant. Pure genius.
SBUffalo Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 The best offered was a 4th after the extension deadline passed so I highly doubt his pre draft worth was a 1st or 2nd. This is completely made up, for the record. Teams will be able to franchise Byrd after this season, though. And I think there's an understanding in some cities that he'd be willing to sign on to play for a winning team. So if we trade him to a contender, they'd most likely be pretty confident about keeping him long-term. I'd take a 3rd for Byrd and be done with it.
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