26CornerBlitz Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) @ProFootballTalk Steelers and Cardinals have agreed to a trade that will send LT Levi Brown. Done deal, pending physical. Jaguars agree to trade OL Eugene Monroe to Ravens: http://www.usatoday....-trade/2906397/ Edited October 2, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 I really can't see the Bills giving up picks this year to bring in a player. Some might contend that it would be worth giving up a couple picks to bring in a better OG to replace Brown, but I think that Marrone and Whaley are content with what they have right now. Now, I could see Buffalo trading away a certain player for the right compensation. <cough Byrd> I think that will be difficult, however, as teams will not be able to negotiate a new contract with him until after the season. Risky business. There are a few teams that could REALLY use help in the secondary right now. Philadelphia and Carolina immediately come to mind.
FLFan Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 This would be the wrong time to trade Byrd given the receiving team's inability to lock him up. It would make the compensation much less than he is worth. I also do not see them trading picks for a guard right now. It is what is for this year.
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 Wow, surprising about Monroe - he was thought of as a can't miss tackle at one point. Is he still? If so, only getting moved for late round picks seems like a big dump for the Jags, though it is his contract year. I haven't read up on the Jags or his performance. It would seem the Ravens want an upgrade on an aging and problematic McKinnie, though. To add: If a potential franchise LT with no restrictions on a contract extension is getting moved for a few late round picks, anyone suggesting that Byrd (who cannot be re-signed in-season) can net a first or even a second rounder is delusional.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 2, 2013 Author Posted October 2, 2013 @JasonLaCanfora Hearing it will be a late round pick going from PIT and AZ for Levi Brown. Brown's contract will remain as is. Makes $4.75M this year...
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 I keep adding, but, while I understand the desire to upgrade on Brown, no one besides the Broncos is going to the Super Bowl from the AFC this year. With that said, is it worth trading away a pick that could be next year's Alonso or Woods to net an upgrade a guard? Especially considering that we could actually get that guard with a 2014 draft pick?
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 I have never recalled this many in-season trades ever. 1) Richardson trade 2) Monroe trade 3) Brown trade Any others?
Captain Hindsight Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 I have never recalled this many in-season trades ever. 1) Richardson trade 2) Monroe trade 3) Brown trade Any others? Microscopes for Challengehistory
boyst Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 Microscopes for Challengehistory challenge history for hossage
RyanC883 Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 I have never recalled this many in-season trades ever. 1) Richardson trade 2) Monroe trade 3) Brown trade Any others? There do seem to be quite a few. I think I'm a fan of it. I would trade a late round pick for Levi Brown. In other news, pick up the St. Louis D if you can for fantasy this week. The Jags are going to get their QB's killed.
apuszczalowski Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) This would be the wrong time to trade Byrd given the receiving team's inability to lock him up. It would make the compensation much less than he is worth. I also do not see them trading picks for a guard right now. It is what is for this year. But when else can you trade him where his value will be higher? Your not going to get anything more for him if you wait it out. At the end of the season teams can just wait til he becomes a FATeams can talk informally and get a "handshake agreement" from him that they will pay him what he wants when they can. I keep adding, but, while I understand the desire to upgrade on Brown, no one besides the Broncos is going to the Super Bowl from the AFC this year. With that said, is it worth trading away a pick that could be next year's Alonso or Woods to net an upgrade a guard? Especially considering that we could actually get that guard with a 2014 draft pick? Trading a mid/late pick for a guy that can start and is an upgrade now will help more then hoping another late round pick becomes a starter. I would trade a 1st to 3rd for one (unless they were one of the better guards in the league now) You never know what your gonna get from a player drafted later As for Monroe, I have heard he has been good (not great) and they did it so they can move this years pick Joekel from RT to LT Edited October 2, 2013 by apuszczalowski
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 Microscopes for Challengehistory I would do Microscopes for a conditional pick, but other than that, pass.
mannc Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 But when else can you trade him where his value will be higher? Your not going to get anything more for him if you wait it out. At the end of the season teams can just wait til he becomes a FA Teams can talk informally and get a "handshake agreement" from him that they will pay him what he wants when they can. I agree. Now is the time to trade Byrd, if you can get decent value for him (1st round pick or 2nd round pick from a team likely to finish in the bottom half of the league). If they are planning to trade Byrd (not saying they are), it's possible that the next couple weeks are showcase games, meant to prove that his foot is sufficiently healed. Personally, I think, when healthy, Byrd is one of the two or three best safeties in the league and is worth at least a no. 1 pick, but given his health issues and the uncertainty of his contract status, we might not be able to get that much for him. Bottom line, though, is that the guy does not want to be here and really needs to be moved, the sooner, the better.
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 But when else can you trade him where his value will be higher? Your not going to get anything more for him if you wait it out. At the end of the season teams can just wait til he becomes a FA Teams can talk informally and get a "handshake agreement" from him that they will pay him what he wants when they can. Trading a mid/late pick for a guy that can start and is an upgrade now will help more then hoping another late round pick becomes a starter. I would trade a 1st to 3rd for one (unless they were one of the better guards in the league now) You never know what your gonna get from a player drafted later As for Monroe, I have heard he has been good (not great) and they did it so they can move this years pick Joekel from RT to LT Even a good, not great LT is worth a 1st round pick, and more than a hobbled starting safety. Methinks the Jags got fleeced, which isn't surprising because they are a dumpster-fire of an organization. And I'm not talking about a late-round pick. I think it would take a second-rounder to pry away a guy that is better than Colin Brown from a team, unless Jax is having a fire sale and has an available guard. This, because they have proven they are stupid.
Kemp2Warlick Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 Ian Rapoport @RapSheet6m Looking at 4th, 5th rounder thinking Monroe is steal for Ravens? Also pay his $3.8M salary, which adds to price. Jags weren't re-signing him
bisonbrigade Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 I have never recalled this many in-season trades ever. 1) Richardson trade 2) Monroe trade 3) Brown trade Any others? Bills traded for Cornelius Bennet in 1987.
ganesh Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 I keep adding, but, while I understand the desire to upgrade on Brown, no one besides the Broncos is going to the Super Bowl from the AFC this year. With that said, is it worth trading away a pick that could be next year's Alonso or Woods to net an upgrade a guard? Especially considering that we could actually get that guard with a 2014 draft pick? Oh really?I am sure 15 other teams would disagree including the teams QBed by one Tom Brady! Peyton has had great regular seasons only to choke in the playoffs against Ravens, Patriots and Steelers.
FLFan Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 But when else can you trade him where his value will be higher? Your not going to get anything more for him if you wait it out. At the end of the season teams can just wait til he becomes a FA Teams can talk informally and get a "handshake agreement" from him that they will pay him what he wants when they can. The Bills own his rights to the next negotiating period and have the threat of franchising him again. If they cannot come to agreement before the tag date, or negotiate a decent trade by then, they can franchise him again and they have until July 15 to trade him His best value would be before or during next year's draft. The bottom line is he is a valuable asset that they should not entertain letting go for the paltry mid round value they could get for him now, with uncertain future. Handshake agreements are not only worthless, but against the rules of the CBA. No negotiating, period.
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