Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 EJ looks like he is in over his head TBH. Hackett wasn't the guy throwing out of bounds. this
Simon Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Correct me if I am wrong (as if that is a problem for this board) but, at the end of the first half we had the ball 3rd and long around our 30 with 50-some seconds left, Jets have one time out. We line up and snap the ball with 24 seconds on the play clock. Other than say Philadelphia, what major league team would not have bled the clock down to about 30 seconds or forced the opposing team to call its final time out??? No we throw pass. What supreme utter stupidity. They don't do this crap in high school. Cost us a field goal. Hackett should have been taken off the mike then and there. They also did it on 2nd down after a sack on about their own 20, which was equally as stupid.
Billshank Redemption Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 We just plain and simple weren't prepared and it showed. Manuel looked like a true rookie and now all we have is questions.
peterpan Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 and after all of the shotgun, the last two plays, from about the 2, WHERE BOTH FROM UNDER CENTER!!!!! I was laughing my arse off. We have 5 plays from under center all day and two of them are with 30 seconds left int he game, when they know we are going to pass? WTF!?!?!?! Hackett CLEARLY grew up playing Madden...his play calling is on par with the 19 y.o. stoners playing Madden over the internet. I was actually thinking that the fans should buy Hacket a playstation so he could hit square for the "ask madden" playcalling tool. That could really help him.
MDyl7993 Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 No designing a scheme utilizing Spiller in space. No bubble screens to speed receivers. No HB screens to Jackson or Spiller. No use of rollouts and taking advantage of a mobile quarterback. No misdirection No use of clock management before half-time. What do you guys think? Hackett is in way over his head. Spiller on the outside, Jackson on the inside. Put them out together. Duh!,,
Kirby Jackson Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Didn't bother to read all 4 pages...just wanted to agree with OP that Hackett is a problem
Armchair GM Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 spiller couldn't find space right now even if he was put aboard a nasa shuttle. i suspect, looking at it after the fact, the bubble screens were out because the OL was getting stood up the entire day the rolll outs and misdirection are usually a byproduct of an effective over the middle passing scheme. we did not and do not have that - we need a TE over the middle or a good slot wr to let sj13 be sj13 the clock management was confounding. hackett is not in over his head - yet. he was outcoached by rex ryan who is a very good football coach, just some times a ****ty head coach Agreed, but they (misdirection and screens) combat agressive D-Line play. Fact is, they never even tried to see if they could catch them overcommitting, one way or the other.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Maybe a wideout bubblescreen to get Graham the ball??? How about a reverse? CBF
MClem06 Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) The problem I see is accountability. Whose holding Hackett accountable for crappy play calling? He's the damn OC for crying out loud... Is anyone in his face saying what the hell was that? Where is the dynamic play calling we were hoping to see? That was the most vanilla game plan I have ever seen by any Bills team. I'm okay with not making the playoffs this year but we have to know that there is more to his schemes than what we saw yesterday. GET RID OF THE FREAKIN SHOTGUN RB DRAWS UP THE MIDDLE FOR 1 yard. Bring in an I formation, run a sweep, offtackle or toss to CJ he's not an up the middle guy and it doesn't take a NFL caliber OC to know that. Edited September 23, 2013 by MClem06
ALF Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Other teams the Bills play will copy the Jets, so we better correct it fast. The injuries will magnify the problems, so slow down , protect EJ and block for CJ.
bobobonators Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 This loss can be summarized and explained rather easily: 1. Rex Ryan had 10 days to prepare his top 10 defense to face a rookie QB. The END. I understand its fun to make fun of Rex, but Marrone and Hackett still have a lot to learn in this league.
Meatloaf Sandwich Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 This loss can be summarized and explained rather easily: 1. Rex Ryan had 10 days to prepare his top 10 defense to face a rookie QB. The END. I understand its fun to make fun of Rex, but Marrone and Hackett still have a lot to learn in this league. Lol yes let's blame 10 days. I bet the same would have happened if t was 7
MichFan Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 The problems I see with the offensive play calling are: (a) it doesn't put our players in their best chance for success, e.g., nothing creative to get the ball to CJ in space; (b) it's not giving EJ enough simple throws to grow his confidence, e.g., Alex Smith and KC offense; © it's too predictable, e.g., called all passes the last three possessions allowing NYJ defense to tee off. Hackett is out of his league right now, this is a horrible way to break in our new franchise QB.
RevWarRifleman Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 No designing a scheme utilizing Spiller in space. No bubble screens to speed receivers. No HB screens to Jackson or Spiller. No use of rollouts and taking advantage of a mobile quarterback. No misdirection No use of clock management before half-time. What do you guys think? Hackett is in way over his head. Agree
5 Wide Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 I'm disappointed in the lack of a screen game..... the number one way to slow down a blitz is to use their aggressiveness against them. The Patriots have literally dissected the Jets aggressiveness with bubble screens, slants, and RB screens. Terrible playcalling, terrible execution, terrible football yesterday.
bobobonators Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Lol yes let's blame 10 days. I bet the same would have happened if t was 7 Im not using the 10 dyays as an excuse. Its just common sense. An elite defensive coach with a very good defense having 3 extra days to gameplan vs an unexperienced coaching staff and a rookie QB is a recipe for disaster. Im not the fool who was on here saying this was going to be an easy win a week ago; drinking the cool aid.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 This loss can be summarized and explained rather easily: 1. Rex Ryan had 10 days to prepare his top 10 defense to face a rookie QB. The END. I understand its fun to make fun of Rex, but Marrone and Hackett still have a lot to learn in this league. That is the problem. This is the NFL. Hackett and any OC should have proven they belonged here. He has trouble adjusting mid game it would appear. I base this off a few things from the first weeks of this young season. Running Spiller into the middle of the D line is silly. Running anyone into the Jets Dline is silly. It will be unsuccessful more then successful. And i do understand about trying to establish the run or keep a d honest. But since Hackett hardly ever used play action, why try to force the run??? There is a saying when it comes to coaching and adjusting- In High School you watch the game on Saturday and make adjustments for next week. In College you make adjustments at half. In the pro's you make adjustments all game long. To me Hackett has shown little ability to make adjustments during the game. I hope he can adjust to the speed of the game, right now he is not cutting it to me. this Coming from you this actually makes EJ look better. You are the same poster who wanted a Mario for Skelton. Tim Teabow. Landry Jones. Etc....
bobobonators Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 That is the problem. This is the NFL. Hackett and any OC should have proven they belonged here. He has trouble adjusting mid game it would appear. I base this off a few things from the first weeks of this young season. Running Spiller into the middle of the D line is silly. Running anyone into the Jets Dline is silly. It will be unsuccessful more then successful. And i do understand about trying to establish the run or keep a d honest. But since Hackett hardly ever used play action, why try to force the run??? There is a saying when it comes to coaching and adjusting- In High School you watch the game on Saturday and make adjustments for next week. In College you make adjustments at half. In the pro's you make adjustments all game long. To me Hackett has shown little ability to make adjustments during the game. I hope he can adjust to the speed of the game, right now he is not cutting it to me. Coming from you this actually makes EJ look better. You are the same poster who wanted a Mario for Skelton. Tim Teabow. Landry Jones. Etc.... Unfortunately I have to agree with your points. I was excited about the Marrone hiring, but I think most of us were concerned about the Hackett signing - and we're starting to see why. We're not playing college defenses; the likes of Rex Ryan, Bellichek and Harbaugh will tear this offense to shreds if we don't make changes.
xsoldier54 Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 EJ looks like he is in over his head TBH. Hackett wasn't the guy throwing out of bounds. EJ will be fine. The Jets had an extra few days to prepare after playing on Thursday night and they did a good job. The Bills had a rough day for sure and EJ was pressured all day. He did play better in the second half, but to be fair, they were in his face most of the day and the secondary had good coverage. Bad day at the office, but it's only one game.
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