Kemp2Warlick Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Peter King @SI_PeterKing13m Great job by @gregabedard and @andy_benoit coming up with new pass-rush metric. So smart. Look at Robert Quinn: http://mmqb.si.com/2013/09/19/nfl-sacks-pressures/ … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Another worthless attempt to measure something that measures nothing. If you're not measuring the impact (that is the outcome) of the sack... does it result in a forced fumble, int, fourth down, or protect a one score lead late in the game protecting, etc. the stat is merely a descriptive analysis and worth less than a hill of beans. When someone can measure something and attach it to its statistically significant impact on the game, then you have something. Edited September 19, 2013 by zonabb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp2Warlick Posted September 19, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 so..that doesn't have any entertainment value?..I guess I'm entertained easily..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOFO Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 good point about three of MW sack being "easy" and due to DB coverage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Another worthless attempt to measure something that measures nothing. If you're not measuring the impact (that is the outcome) of the sack... does it result in a forced fumble, int, fourth down, or protect a one score lead late in the game protecting, etc. the stat is merely a descriptive analysis and worth less than a hill of beans. When someone can measure something and attach it to its statistically significant impact on the game, then you have something. We'll wait on your research for that one, buddy. Very good analysis, in my opinion. I've always thought QB pressures are more indicative of DE play than sack total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 My buddy had the same idea for a pressure stat about 10 years ago. he was too lazy to do anything about it and now has been jumped by Peter king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 My buddy had the same idea for a pressure stat about 10 years ago. he was too lazy to do anything about it and now has been jumped by Peter king. Your buddy was about 30 years too late, anyway. Teams, if not the league officially, have been tracking pressures since the early 80s. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Another worthless attempt to measure something that measures nothing. If you're not measuring the impact (that is the outcome) of the sack... does it result in a forced fumble, int, fourth down, or protect a one score lead late in the game protecting, etc. the stat is merely a descriptive analysis and worth less than a hill of beans. When someone can measure something and attach it to its statistically significant impact on the game, then you have something. It's called probability. If a team consistently pressures the QB - sack or not - the probability of a game changing play (or game winning stop) goes up. It's pretty simple and worth looking into. In addition, I like knowing who should really get credit for a play instead of just looking at who benefited on the stat sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Interesting analysis IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Your buddy was about 30 years too late, anyway. Teams, if not the league officially, have been tracking pressures since the early 80s. GO BILLS!!! His other claim to fame was to suggest a change to the format of House Hunters about 5 years before the show made the change he told everyone about. The guy can't catch a break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Your buddy was about 30 years too late, anyway. Teams, if not the league officially, have been tracking pressures since the early 80s. GO BILLS!!! Bruce ad an ungodly 47 pressres in 1996 (plus 14.5 sacs), one of the greatest seasons ever for a defensive player. Another worthless attempt to measure something that measures nothing. If you're not measuring the impact (that is the outcome) of the sack... does it result in a forced fumble, int, fourth down, or protect a one score lead late in the game protecting, etc. the stat is merely a descriptive analysis and worth less than a hill of beans. When someone can measure something and attach it to its statistically significant impact on the game, then you have something. Not a great post. You're capable of a better take than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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