JP-era Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 I would trade him there and I seriously would throw in our 3rd but really think it may not be such a bad idea to throw in our 2nd. Id love for us to add a stud LT, or another stud WR, though we really dont need another stud WR. Im just trying to add as much supporting cast as possible for you know who. How about giving up Travis and our #2 to get the fins #2 overall. Then trade down once or twice to the mid round 1, get back your 2 and more and then take best available TE or LT or maybe even DE. In one swoop we end up trading Travis and getting back into the 1st for nothing! Heres my move: 1) Travis and our 2nd rounder to the fins for the #2 overall 2) Trade the #2 overall to a team that fesses a mid to high 1st AND a 2nd rounder Why is this not very do-able? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffan00 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 We cant afford a high 1st rnder this year, since we essentially got 2 last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted January 16, 2005 Author Share Posted January 16, 2005 We cant afford a high 1st rnder this year, since we essentially got 2 last year. 207044[/snapback] Fine take the mid/high first rounder and continue to trade down or trade for another player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerjamhead Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 I think they should send Henry and Losman to the Phins for a conditional 6th rounder in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 So, you fugure that Travis plus our second (around 52) will get the overall #2 pick in the draft? Can I have some of what you're smoking? Travis alone is worth a third round pick, maybe late 2, nothing more. Travis and a pick do not equal #2 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted January 16, 2005 Author Share Posted January 16, 2005 So, you fugure that Travis plus our second (around 52) will get the overall #2 pick in the draft? Can I have some of what you're smoking? Travis alone is worth a third round pick, maybe late 2, nothing more. Travis and a pick do not equal #2 overall. 207048[/snapback] Gosh, your soooo right. No other team has traded there 1st rounder for a player. hmmmmmmmm. Yes its a high pick, but why dont the fins LOVE the thought of adding a pro-bowl RB AND pick up a 2nd rounder when they need so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffan00 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 I think they should send Henry and Losman to the Phins for a conditional 6th rounder in 2011. 207047[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Gosh, your soooo right. No other team has traded there 1st rounder for a player. hmmmmmmmm. Yes its a high pick, but why dont the fins LOVE the thought of adding a pro-bowl RB AND pick up a 2nd rounder when they need so much? 207051[/snapback] RB is the most easily replaced skill position. See Denver. This off season Edgerrin James will be available. Rudi Johnson will be available. Shaun Alexander will be available. All bring more to the field than TH, IMO. As for your question, yes, teams have traded their first rounder for a player. TH is not that player. If you want to get the #2 from Miami you would have to package at least one other young player into the deal. Someone with potential down the road. Losman comes to mind. Miami may take Travis & JP for the number two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Gosh, your soooo right. No other team has traded there 1st rounder for a player. hmmmmmmmm. Yes its a high pick, but why dont the fins LOVE the thought of adding a pro-bowl RB AND pick up a 2nd rounder when they need so much? 207051[/snapback] You need to study up on your draft pick values (not surprising since you're 12 yrs old)... there's no way that trade could happen. To move up to the #2 overall pick, it would take something like every Bills draft pick this year since we don't have a 1st rounder to give back. Go study the Ricky Williams draft day trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Gosh, your soooo right. No other team has traded there 1st rounder for a player. hmmmmmmmm. Yes its a high pick, but why dont the fins LOVE the thought of adding a pro-bowl RB AND pick up a 2nd rounder when they need so much? 207051[/snapback] Yeah, Travis Henry for the 2nd pick in the draft. That doesn't ignore history. Let's see: The Chargers traded 2 first rounders, a second, and 3 time pro bowler Eric Metcalf to move up ONE place and select Ryan Leaf. But we're going to get that spot for friggin' Travis Henry and a third. Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 I would trade him there and I seriously would throw in our 3rd but really think it may not be such a bad idea to throw in our 2nd. Id love for us to add a stud LT, or another stud WR, though we really dont need another stud WR. Im just trying to add as much supporting cast as possible for you know who. How about giving up Travis and our #2 to get the fins #2 overall. Then trade down once or twice to the mid round 1, get back your 2 and more and then take best available TE or LT or maybe even DE. In one swoop we end up trading Travis and getting back into the 1st for nothing! Heres my move: 1) Travis and our 2nd rounder to the fins for the #2 overall 2) Trade the #2 overall to a team that fesses a mid to high 1st AND a 2nd rounder Why is this not very do-able? 207042[/snapback] Nick Saban would have to be a bona fide moron to trade the 2nd highest pick in the entire draft for Travis Henry and our 2nd round pick which comes pretty late in that round. Look at what the few teams who have simply swapped a pick that high for another in the first that was lower recieved in exchange for that swap. New Orleans swapped first rounders to get Ricky Williams with Washington who had the 5th pick in the draft, not the 2nd like the fins do, the fifth. They got all of New Orleans' picks for that entire draft and they got their 1st and 5th picks in the next draft. In 2002, the Seahawks swapped with the Packers allowing the Packers to move up 8 picks late in the the first and Seattle got the Pack's 2nd round pick for their trouble. Last year Cleveland and Detroint swapped their picks, 6 and 7 in the first and Detroit recieved Cleveland's 2nd round pick for simply dropping down one pick. The 49er's swapped with the Eagles, dropping down 12 spots but picking up a 2nd round pick. These teams receied extra picks in the second just for swapping and dropping a bit. You are suggesting that Miami would give up the 2nd highest pick in the draft for the equivalent of a back so mediocre that we took a chance on a guy with a fragmented knee and a year of rehab ahead of him to try and upgrade along with a late pick in the second round. Again, Saban would have to be an idiot. He could get a lot more for that pick than that and this draft is rich in running backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 We should all be whistling and kicking our heals if we can get Miami to agree to a player for player trade with TH, much less something involving the second pick OVERALL. That is beyond comprehension albeit fun to ponder. A bit of reality is always a good thing, but hey it is the offseason so dreaming is ok also. Heck, I like thinking about the Bills going 16-0 next season and then 3-0 in the subsequent post-season. So, please don't rain on my parade. As I will try not raining on yours. Having said that, I dream of a player for player trade for TH. No draft picks please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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