quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 What does Easely have to do to get a shot with this offense? Because TJ just isn't showing me enough, especially for a WR who's playing HALF of the offensive snaps. GIve me a 6' 2 217lb wr who played well in preseason over a 5-11 188lb wr who has underperformed thus far( 1 catch 8 yds, 1 rush 5 yds). I think giving EJ four big targets (SJ, Woods, Chandler and Easely) is the right call. Thoughts? Sorry if this was already discussed...
The Big Cat Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 All I can say is there must be more to the story. When a guy can't find the field under two consecutive coaching regimes, something's going on.
VirginiaMike Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Is it a speed thing? Graham is easily the fastest WR so maybe the bills want one 'burner' out on the wing? ?It is obvious that 13 and 10 are #1 and #2.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 All I can say is there must be more to the story. When a guy can't find the field under two consecutive coaching regimes, something's going on. I think what's going on is he's raw. I am willing to give him until his 4th year before we see serious production. He was always a project.
MOFO Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I thought it was interesting that Hogan was on the field for SJ's TD...swapping speed for posession? Easley could have been used? I would think if there was something up they would have thrown the towel in on him and gone with a younger player...great hit on special teams though...
peterpan Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 TJ hasnt shown any reason, to me, why he was even drafted. No seperation, no hands, doesn't make people miss. IDK, doesn't seem to be much of a football player, more of an athlete.
OCinBuffalo Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised if they got Easley in there more often. Especially in the red zone. However, Hogan is no joke in the Red Zone either. Specifically, on the last play? Hogan beat his man cleanly. He would have been open for the slant, if the inside cover guy didn't leave SJ, and move towards him. The inside guy never looked for the ball, and simply ran to cover Hogan's rout. I really don't understand why we aren't getting the ball to all of these guys, or designing plays for them. It seems this is a symptom of reducing the playbook. I think we'll see all of the WRs contribute on O before the season is out. The worst is: I don't see them opening up the playbook for the next 2 games either. Jets and Ravens D probably mean: more conservative calls.
5 Wide Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Is it a speed thing? Graham is easily the fastest WR so maybe the bills want one 'burner' out on the wing? ?It is obvious that 13 and 10 are #1 and #2. Easley ran a 4.39 in the 40, so I would not guess speed is the issue. Graham is a little bit faster, but Easley can stretch the field with that speed as well.
bowery4 Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I agree with the OP and raise it to returning punts too. McKelvin might get hurt doing that which would screw us.
MOFO Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I agree with the OP and raise it to returning punts too. McKelvin might get hurt doing that which would screw us. good point...
NoName Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Easley is like a folk legend around these parts. I agree, I'd rather see Easley on the field too but keep some things in mind. 1) There seems to be a need/feel that Graham has more value than Easley. They were only drafted 1 round apart. Graham 3rd rounder Easley 4th 2) Graham did get behind his man consistently. E.J. failed to get him the ball 3) Graham's speed on the field helps to open up all of that dink and dunk stuff that the Bills offense seems to be based on. 4) E.J. throws more check downs than Trentative....so it won't really matter anyway.
Bufcomments Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 the only reason I can think of is maybe the coaches dont trust Easley with the knowledge of the playbook. Otherwise I think Easley should be given a chance to show he can do it , he did it in the preseason right?
Zac Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 TJ was running wide open on a majority of plays during the final TD drive. On the throw that ended up as an interception, that was reversed because of the PI, TJ was wide, wide open. Last week he beat his man for what could have been a TD had EJ not thrown the ball out of bounds. I agree that his production has been dissapointing, but it's not just on him.
mrags Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I haven't read every comment so it might have been said. On the long ball to TJ yesterday, he was open and had a step. He had no idea and didnt turn around fast enough to look for the ball (his own fault) But I also noticed in other plays he was wide open in the 2nd half many other times. Now, of that's EJs fault for not trusting him, or for not getting through his progressions fast enough, or of another WR was also open and EJ made the okay somewhere else. All these options are possible. I'm not ready to give up yet. The missed long ball yesterday is proof that he's getting open deep. Maybe EJ just needs to work on timing with him a bit. Either way, I'm ok with giving it another game or 2 to find out for sure.
Max997 Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Would this even be discussed if EJ didn't under throw TJ when he clearly beat his guy deep? Edited September 16, 2013 by Max997
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Easley is like a folk legend around these parts. I agree, I'd rather see Easley on the field too but keep some things in mind. 1) There seems to be a need/feel that Graham has more value than Easley. They were only drafted 1 round apart. Graham 3rd rounder Easley 4th 2) Graham did get behind his man consistently. E.J. failed to get him the ball 3) Graham's speed on the field helps to open up all of that dink and dunk stuff that the Bills offense seems to be based on. 4) E.J. throws more check downs than Trentative....so it won't really matter anyway. This argument was used a lot when Lee Evans' career took a nose dive. Good deep threats often act as diversions, yes, to occupy a CB and a safety. But don't we want a guy that can actually catch the ball too?
Webster Guy Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Like Big Cat says there has to be something more going on because as outsiders it seems like an obvious no brainer to start working Easley in on TJ's reps. Or even Hogan if there is a confidence issue with Easley. That Keuchly INT was a good example of how little speedsters can be such a liability out there. When your rookie qb is staring you down like EJ did on that one (yikes), you MUST come back to the ball instead of standing there waiting for it like TJ did. If Carolina wasn't so geeked on trying to hit the long balls to Ginn yesterday and focused on passing to their TE and Smith more we probably lose that game. I'll take the possession bigger guys that use their body to shield the defender and make the play. I think TJ has blackmail pictures of Ralph naked or something (sorry for the visual)
prissythecat Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 What does Easely have to do to get a shot with this offense? Because TJ just isn't showing me enough, especially for a WR who's playing HALF of the offensive snaps. GIve me a 6' 2 217lb wr who played well in preseason over a 5-11 188lb wr who has underperformed thus far( 1 catch 8 yds, 1 rush 5 yds). I think giving EJ four big targets (SJ, Woods, Chandler and Easely) is the right call. Thoughts? Sorry if this was already discussed... Were you one of the guys who used to clamor regularly for the coaching staff to start Brian Brohm ? ;-) The question to ask is : "Has Easley shown enough to coaches during practice to merit giving him that spot over TJ?" . I would suspect the answer still is "No".
mountainwampus Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 TJ is clearly not Marrone's choice, but Nix/Whaley's. They told him to anoint TJ a starter and that he'll be the next Mike Wallace. They need a reality check, it's not going to happen. Easely has had very few chances over 3 seasons, but still managed to show some playmaking ability over many preseasons. TJ was the exact opposite. He has been targeted over 60 times and yet, still hasn't shown anything special. One thing he HAS shown is that he's willing to drop a ball if it means not getting hit.
BillnutinHouston Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I thought it was interesting that Hogan was on the field for SJ's TD...swapping speed for posession? Easley could have been used? I would think if there was something up they would have thrown the towel in on him and gone with a younger player...great hit on special teams though... Better hands on Hogan than Easley? That last play was a possession-type play, not a speed play.
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