Direhard Fan Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 Crushed like a paper doll sure stirred up a lot of people. Fun stuff here. Still say he will have an attitude problem. And if we had a good OL Spiller would get outside.
YoloinOhio Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) You do know that Johnny doesn't run around in circles every play right? I'm aware... while he is capable of completing the impossible throw, he sometimes appears incapable of the possible throw. He holds onto the ball for eternities. Goes through progressions slowly and instead of throwing a 10 yard pass that is opem, he tries to complete a 40 yard pass. By the time he throws it, the WRs have already completed their routes and he throws it up to a surprised WR who sometimes comes down with it,instead of running the actual play for a 1st down that was drawn up. That is what makes him maddeningly inconsistent and tough to coach. He thinks he can make every and any throw. A lot of the times, he is right and it works - so he continues to do it. In the NFL I think he will need to be reigned in. He plays the game like a 12 year old with an xbox controller. Will be interesting to watch in the NFL. I actually think he will still be tough to sack. But he will be able to be forced into bad decisions. Just my opinion, I know many don't agree. Edited January 11, 2014 by YoloinOhio
mannc Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 I'm aware... while he is capable of completing the impossible throw, he sometimes appears incapable of the possible throw. He holds onto the ball for eternities. Goes through progressions slowly and instead of throwing a 10 yard pass that is opem, he tries to complete a 40 yard pass. By the time he throws it, the WRs have already completed their routes and he throws it up to a surprised WR who sometimes comes down with it,instead of running the actual play for a 1st down that was drawn up. That is what makes him maddeningly inconsistent and tough to coach. He thinks he can make every and any throw. A lot of the times, he is right and it works - so he continues to do it. In the NFL I think he will need to be reigned in. He plays the game like a 12 year old with an xbox controller. Will be interesting to watch in the NFL. I actually think he will still be tough to sack. But he will be able to be forced into bad decisions. Just my opinion, I know many don't agree. Wow, with all those weaknesses he should be available to us on Day Three or as an UDFA, right?
YoloinOhio Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 Wow, with all those weaknesses he should be available to us on Day Three or as an UDFA, right? lol. I didn't talk about the positives. . it's just my opinion as someone watching him on TV. But I think he can change, if he wants to. Decent mechanics. Seems to be more accurate throwing off his back foot than with his feet set sometimes. Crazy. He has a lot of potential. He is intriguing, that is for sure.
mannc Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 lol. I didn't talk about the positives. . it's just my opinion as someone watching him on TV. But I think he can change, if he wants to. Decent mechanics. Seems to be more accurate throwing off his back foot than with his feet set sometimes. Crazy. He has a lot of potential. He is intriguing, that is for sure. Hey, you could very well be right. There have been plenty of college QBs with similar skill sets who washed out in the NFL. (Colt McCoy comes to mind.). I just have a feeling that this guy is different and I bet there will be at least one GM holding a top-four pick who agrees with me. It only takes one.
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 If he goes to the Cleveland travelling sh--show I foresee a short career.
YoloinOhio Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) Hey, you could very well be right. There have been plenty of college QBs with similar skill sets who washed out in the NFL. (Colt McCoy comes to mind.). I just have a feeling that this guy is different and I bet there will be at least one GM holding a top-four pick who agrees with me. It only takes one. Not only do I think he will go that high, I think the Browns may trade up to 2 to get past the Jags. Not the best or worst place to be (Cleveland) because they have Josh Gordon already, who catches everything. If he goes to the Cleveland travelling sh--show I foresee a short career. Factory of Sadness - possible. My biggest fear of him going to Cleveland is like EJ coming here... he wil be looked at as a savior for their last 10 years of no playoffs and will have a very short leash with the fan base. If he has growing pains, the fans and media may turn in him and I don't know how he would handle that given his past behavior. Flip off the crowd? It would be funny... EJ has the opposite persona with the polished, calm demeanor. JFF is more flashy and a me-guy... sometimes blue collar fan bases like Cleveland will turn on that IF he isn't winning. Edited January 11, 2014 by YoloinOhio
mannc Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 Not only do I think he will go that high, I think the Browns may trade up to 2 to get past the Jags. Not the best or worst place to be (Cleveland) because they have Josh Gordon already, who catches everything. I think the Texans will be under considerable pressure to take him with the first pick, but I predict he goes to the Jags or someone who trades up to number 2.
Bufcomments Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 http://www.cbssports...rospectrankings thing I noticed was Johnny Football was ranked ninth, Mack 10th. Interesting.
Mr. WEO Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 , he sometimes appears incapable of the possible throw. He holds onto the ball for eternities. Goes through progressions slowly and instead of throwing a 10 yard pass that is opem, he tries to complete a 40 yard pass. By the time he throws it, the WRs have already completed their routes and he throws it up to a surprised WR who sometimes comes down with it, We drafted that guy last year.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 @FootballPost Breaking down Johnny Football: After extensive film study, here’s our analysis of Texas A&M quarterback Johnny... http://bit.ly/M4F73U
FireChan Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 @FootballPost Breaking down Johnny Football: After extensive film study, here’s our analysis of Texas A&M quarterback Johnny... http://bit.ly/M4F73U He's the best. If the Browns get him, they'll go 10-6, make the playoffs and Pettine will be COTY.
Dibs Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) He's the best...... Edited January 28, 2014 by Dibs
FireChan Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 I'm smitten on Johnny. Maybe not a 15 years of domination type talent, but you can bet he'll have some great performances and set the league on fire his first season a la RG3.
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 I'm smitten on Johnny. Maybe not a 15 years of domination type talent, but you can bet he'll have some great performances and set the league on fire his first season a la RG3. How much would you pay for his autograph?
MDH Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 I'm smitten on Johnny. Maybe not a 15 years of domination type talent, but you can bet he'll have some great performances and set the league on fire his first season a la RG3. He'll be a rookie of the year candidate (or maybe rookie of the year) and then it'll be a straight drop down. The guy has so much media attention and lacks the maturity to be able to deal with it and everything else that goes along with it. He will be Vince Young V2.0. But hey, you'll get a year of "I TOLD YOU SO!" before the media circus that covers his self implosion feeds on him like a wake of vultures.
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 He'll be a rookie of the year candidate (or maybe rookie of the year) and then it'll be a straight drop down. The guy has so much media attention and lacks the maturity to be able to deal with it and everything else that goes along with it. He will be Vince Young V2.0. But hey, you'll get a year of "I TOLD YOU SO!" before the media circus that covers his self implosion feeds on him like a wake of vultures. It's true. With his style, it might caught the league off guard. Like Young, Vick, Flutie, and Tebow. But teams will game plan to keep him in the pocket and see if he can beat you from there. I don't think he can but it definitely will be interesting to see if an elf can be a legit NFL QB.
FireChan Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 He'll be a rookie of the year candidate (or maybe rookie of the year) and then it'll be a straight drop down. The guy has so much media attention and lacks the maturity to be able to deal with it and everything else that goes along with it. He will be Vince Young V2.0. But hey, you'll get a year of "I TOLD YOU SO!" before the media circus that covers his self implosion feeds on him like a wake of vultures. I'd love a year of success from the QB position. It'd be so worth it.
YoloinOhio Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 It's true. With his style, it might caught the league off guard. Like Young, Vick, Flutie, and Tebow. But teams will game plan to keep him in the pocket and see if he can beat you from there. I don't think he can but it definitely will be interesting to see if an elf can be a legit NFL QB. I think he could start off well as defenses adjust.. not sure he'll make it the whole year though. I really have no clue what to expect. Depends what team he ends up on, for the most part.
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