BillsInMaine Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Will Hacket and the Bills stick with the heavy run game or open it up a little bit? The panthers have a stout D line, passing may be out better option. Personally I hope they open the game up for EJ a little more. I'm anxious to see this kid really play.
Nathan Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 I think we will see some shots down the field, moreso than last week. But I'd also like to see more screens and outside runs. Don't recall Spiller getting any pitches to allow him to run in space or anything like that much last week.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Love to see a little play action to start the game. Fake to Spiller and let EJ air one out.
Webster Guy Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 The best weapon against an overly aggressive front 4 is the screen play. Let them get by your O-line without making it too obvious that you're letting them by you, and sneak your RB in behind them. It keeps defenses honest, takes advantage of athletic quarterbacks, and most importantly gets CJ Spiller in space. I don't care how good Keuchly is, if its just him and CJ in the open field he's gonna get a handful of air. Say what you want about Chan Gailey but he was the master at it. Hackett needs to pay more attention to how it was run last year, we have a lot of the same guys still on the offense. Screens are tricky to do the right way, it takes a solid effort from every man on the field, but they are incredibly effective and I hope to see more of them in the games ahead. Overall i thought Hackett called a poor game in the opener and hope he redeems himself on Sunday. We need this win and we aren't gonna get it with 14 points
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Carolina has a really aggressive front 7. I expect the Bills to counter that with some play action, delayed hand offs, bubble screens, and quick slants. I fully expect a much more diverse offense tomorrow.
Clockwork Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 I'd like to see EJ run with it a few times (if his knee is feeling up to it). Work the read option in different ways - both passing, rushing and keepers
Big Turk Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) EJ said they plan on taking shots down the field this game in his conference call... And yes I agree, would have loved to see Gailey's offense with EJ instead of Fitz...he knew how to get players open and design plays... That being said, everything else was a disaster with him, lol Edited September 14, 2013 by matter2003
RealityCheck Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 In all fairness in regards to play calling, you guys have listed a number of good ideas, but EJ is still a rookie with very few preseason reps under his belt. I expect a more diverse attack, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is a minor adjustment to the game plan from last week either. I sense that protecting EJ from himself is part of the equation at the moment as they help him build confidence and establish a down hill running identity at the same time, while letting the rest of the team adjust to the idea that they will live and die by the no-huddle attack.
GG Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 The best weapon against an overly aggressive front 4 is the screen play. Let them get by your O-line without making it too obvious that you're letting them by you, and sneak your RB in behind them. It keeps defenses honest, takes advantage of athletic quarterbacks, and most importantly gets CJ Spiller in space. I don't care how good Keuchly is, if its just him and CJ in the open field he's gonna get a handful of air. Say what you want about Chan Gailey but he was the master at it. Hackett needs to pay more attention to how it was run last year, we have a lot of the same guys still on the offense. Screens are tricky to do the right way, it takes a solid effort from every man on the field, but they are incredibly effective and I hope to see more of them in the games ahead. Overall i thought Hackett called a poor game in the opener and hope he redeems himself on Sunday. We need this win and we aren't gonna get it with 14 points My thoughts exactly. I hope that Bills would dust off last year playbook, because not everything about that team was a disaster. Many yards were gained off perfectly designed and executed screens. Didn't see much of those this year. Hackett was very conservative on Sunday and let's hope he keeps learning fast, too.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 In all fairness in regards to play calling, you guys have listed a number of good ideas, but EJ is still a rookie with very few preseason reps under his belt. I expect a more diverse attack, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is a minor adjustment to the game plan from last week either. I sense that protecting EJ from himself is part of the equation at the moment as they help him build confidence and establish a down hill running identity at the same time, while letting the rest of the team adjust to the idea that they will live and die by the no-huddle attack. This. I do hope that Hackett has a clock-control ball-control offense somewhere inside him though. Consistent winners need one on occasion. Even Green Bay has been known to ground-n-pound when nothing else worked.
rayzor Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 The best weapon against an overly aggressive front 4 is the screen play. Let them get by your O-line without making it too obvious that you're letting them by you, and sneak your RB in behind them. It keeps defenses honest, takes advantage of athletic quarterbacks, and most importantly gets CJ Spiller in space. I don't care how good Keuchly is, if its just him and CJ in the open field he's gonna get a handful of air. Say what you want about Chan Gailey but he was the master at it. Hackett needs to pay more attention to how it was run last year, we have a lot of the same guys still on the offense. Screens are tricky to do the right way, it takes a solid effort from every man on the field, but they are incredibly effective and I hope to see more of them in the games ahead. Overall i thought Hackett called a poor game in the opener and hope he redeems himself on Sunday. We need this win and we aren't gonna get it with 14 points i don't know that it's them being overly aggressive. i've heard that said, but rivera has a philosophy that he actually picked up from lovie smith in chicago and has used elsewhere that is 'penetrate first, read second' in which the goal is to just get vertical and get throught he OL as quick as possible and then read what the O is trying to do. with that, they are coached to play the run on the way to the QB so they are expecting the RB to be involved and are trained to attack it. you saw that with the way they handled lynch last week.
Joat Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Will Hacket and the Bills stick with the heavy run game or open it up a little bit? The panthers have a stout D line, passing may be out better option. Personally I hope they open the game up for EJ a little more. I'm anxious to see this kid really play. Better try to open it up because the Panther front 7 is as good as any in the NFL. Lynch was completely shut down last week.
GoBills19 Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 They babied the hell out of EJ week 1. I'm thinking be will have a little more freedom to run and throw deep this week
thefootballexpert Posted September 14, 2013 Posted September 14, 2013 Also agree. Yeah they have to open up the offense a little more even if EJ is a rookie. The Play calling against the Pats was terrible. It really felt like Chan Gailey was still calling the offensive plays last week. The game plan last week has to rank right up there with Gailey's bad calls. Open up the offense and let EJ show us what he's got.
fansince88 Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 they will open it up/a little more next week. E.J's confidence is on the rise. Imagine throwing the bus at him and making him feel like Geno did after the fourth quarter Thursday night. I want the wins but I also want a slid QB. making him confident in himself and not throwing too much at him is how you do that.
Joat Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 they will open it up/a little more next week. E.J's confidence is on the rise. Imagine throwing the bus at him and making him feel like Geno did after the fourth quarter Thursday night. I want the wins but I also want a slid QB. making him confident in himself and not throwing too much at him is how you do that. Depends on the player, IMO. Cam didn't have training camp due to the lockout but he had enough confidence and play book knowledge to throw for 400+ yards in his first two career games. I think you have to push the limits to really gauge where he is and what his comfort level is.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 I want the wins but I also want a solid QB. making him confident in himself and not throwing too much at him is how you do that. Depends on the player, IMO. Cam didn't have training camp due to the lockout but he had enough confidence and play book knowledge to throw for 400+ yards in his first two career games. I think you have to push the limits to really gauge where he is and what his comfort level is. Yes, it depends on the player. It's never a "one size fits all" thing.
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