B-Man Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 NBC reports, Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance: Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC NEWS that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law. One expert predicts that number could reach as high as 80 percent. And all say that many of those forced to buy pricier new policies will experience “sticker shock.” None of this should come as a shock to the Obama administration. The law states that policies in effect as of March 23, 2010 will be “grandfathered,” meaning consumers can keep those policies even though they don’t meet requirements of the new health care law. But the Department of Health and Human Services then wrote regulations that narrowed that provision, by saying that if any part of a policy was significantly changed since that date — the deductible, co-pay, or benefits, for example — the policy would not be grandfathered. Buried in Obamacare regulations from July 2010 is an estimate that because of normal turnover in the individual insurance market, “40 to 67 percent” of customers will not be able to keep their policy. And because many policies will have been changed since the key date, “the percentage of individual market policies losing grandfather status in a given year exceeds the 40 to 67 percent range.” That means the administration knew that more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them. Yet President Obama, who had promised in 2009, “if you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan,” was still saying in 2012, “If [you] already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance.” Don't bother hitting the link...........NBC News posted the article around 8pm and then took it down by 11:00 but it had already been copied at several sites. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) Don't bother hitting the link...........NBC News posted the article around 8pm and then took it down by 11:00 but it had already been copied at several sites. The link is still there. Now the social media world is playing with the latest tweet from Obama puppetmaster Valerie Jarrett: Valerie Jarrett @vj44 FACT: Nothing in #Obamacare forces people out of their health plans. No change is required unless insurance companies change existing plans. And the newly designed healthcare.gov website is ready for you. Edited October 29, 2013 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 The link is still there. Now the social media world is playing with the latest tweet from Obama puppetmaster Valerie Jarrett: Valerie Jarrett @vj44 FACT: Nothing in #Obamacare forces people out of their health plans. No change is required unless insurance companies change existing plans. Yep, it came back up during the night. "No change is required unless insurance companies change existing plans"? Valerie, they have to change the plans to comply with Obamacare. Good grief, how stupid do you think the country is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Yep, it came back up during the night. "No change is required unless insurance companies change existing plans"? Valerie, they have to change the plans to comply with Obamacare. Good grief, how stupid do you think the country is ? They don't think (I should stop right there...); they know how stupid the country is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Yeah so they knew it would force people off but the Ends Justify the Means. Oh, and RummyCheneyTeaPartyHaliburtonBush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Valerie, they have to change the plans to comply with Obamacare. Good grief, how stupid do you think the country is ? We're pretty damn stupid these days. I suspect few can deny just what a huge failure Obamacare has turned out to be: crappy website, higher rates, people losing coverage, unable to buy new coverage, and a WH standing around arguing none of this would have happened if only the GOP didn't obstruct them. But hey...no one is more upset than Barack Obama that his incompetency is no longer denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 We're pretty damn stupid these days. I suspect few can deny just what a huge failure Obamacare has turned out to be: crappy website, higher rates, people losing coverage, unable to buy new coverage, and a WH standing around arguing none of this would have happened if only the GOP didn't obstruct them. Stop trying to sabotage it, you teabagger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Just in case anyone questions the whole "If you like your plan/doctor, you can keep them" lie, here's a special video from the WH in 2009 to remind you what he really meant. Hint: He meant exactly what he said he meant. http://www.ijreview....-complete-sham/ We're watching a president's credibility melt before our very eyes. But hey...how about that immigration reform? Wait. What? The Obamacare headlines are drowing it out? Man, if only the government were still shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 And the newly designed healthcare.gov website is ready for you. hey, let's show a little respect here! as a lifelong three stooges fan, I am deeply offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 hey, let's show a little respect here! as a lifelong three stooges fan, I am deeply offended. Did you see the movie released last year? It got panned, but my 8-year-old and I laughed all the way through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 hey, let's show a little respect here! as a lifelong three stooges fan, I am deeply offended. The ends justify the means. #FORWARD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Did you see the movie released last year? It got panned, but my 8-year-old and I laughed all the way through it. I thought it was hysterical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 hey, let's show a little respect here! as a lifelong three stooges fan, I am deeply offended. I'm not deeply offended I'm saddened by a couple of things. One: The Stooges were funnny and our gov't is not. Two: That that picture is in color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Hoyer in 2009: ‘You Like It, You Keep It’ Although he now says he and other Democrats knew some Americans would be kicked off their health care plans by Obamacare, Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer himself issued an emphatic, categorical claim to the contray at a 2009 town hall: Under Democratic health proposals, “we keep what works and fix what doesn’t,” Hoyer said. “If you’ve got it, you like it, you keep it.” Hoyer said earlier today Democrats should have been more “precise” and caveated their claims with language indicating the promise assumed “you have a policy that in fact does do what the bill is designed to do.” Well Steny, I tell you what.............. I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you're a dem party first hack, with low inteligence.................'kay ? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Did you see the movie released last year? It got panned, but my 8-year-old and I laughed all the way through it. no, I'm one of those really annoying 'purist' types, so the thought of them cast in the present-day was a bit much for me. I'm even worse about seeing any movie version of a story I read in a book. close friends and family don't even ask my opinion on such things anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I thought it was hysterical. My son and I randomly walk up to each other out of the blue and spout off set-up lines from movies. One of his favorites is from when the bell falls off the roof and hits the nun. I'll ask him, totally out of the blue, "Was that Sister Mary-Mengele?" and he does a great Curly "I don't know, but the face rings a bell." He occasionally walks into my office home from school with a newspaper in his hand and says "Johnny, what do you make of this?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 He occasionally walks into my office home from school with a newspaper in his hand and says "Johnny, what do you make of this?" My brother, sister, and I use that line a lot, too. We'll also punctuate each others' observations with "And Leon's getting LAAAAAAARGer!!!" Hoyer in 2009: ‘You Like It, You Keep It’ Although he now says he and other Democrats knew some Americans would be kicked off their health care plans by Obamacare, Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer himself issued an emphatic, categorical claim to the contray at a 2009 town hall: Under Democratic health proposals, “we keep what works and fix what doesn’t,” Hoyer said. “If you’ve got it, you like it, you keep it.” Hoyer said earlier today Democrats should have been more “precise” and caveated their claims with language indicating the promise assumed “you have a policy that in fact does do what the bill is designed to do.” Well Steny, I tell you what.............. I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you're a dem party first hack, with low inteligence.................'kay ? . In Steny's defense, given that HHS's narrow regulatory interpretation seems to be a major contributing factor, he can at least pretend to plausible deniability under the guise of "The law was fine, the executive !@#$ed it up." He won't, since any Democrat who breaks ranks on this is immediately a lame-duck racist teabagger. But he could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 http://screen.yahoo.com/snl/obamacare-website-ad-080000046.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 no, I'm one of those really annoying 'purist' types, so the thought of them cast in the present-day was a bit much for me. I'm even worse about seeing any movie version of a story I read in a book. close friends and family don't even ask my opinion on such things anymore. A true purist watches nothing with Shemp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 A true purist watches nothing with Shemp. The fascinating thing is that Shemp was an original stooge, before Curly came into the act to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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