Dibs Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Well if you're thick, I am too. It's not uncommon to find conflicting opinions online about salary cap issues, maybe because the CBA is so hard to fully understand that there are only a few people who really understand all the details (I don't). If I see anything from a league or other reliable source that seems to definitively answer the question (either way), particularly if it cites to a CBA provision, I'll try to remember to come back and post it here. No worries, so will I. My "thick" comment was in frustration at being unable to have a definitive answer(at least in my head)......it really bugs me when that happens lol.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 So to sum it all up... Bills will have barely any money to sign free agents next year. Correct? CBF
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 So to sum it all up... Bills will have barely any money to sign free agents next year. Correct? CBF I still think they are quite alright with regards to free agency, though likely not going crazy.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 I still think they are quite alright with regards to free agency, though likely not going crazy. So pretty much like the free agent period we just experienced CBF
Dibs Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 So pretty much like the free agent period we just experienced CBF It depends if teams can re-roll their rollover or not. Being extremely rough with numbers.... As it stands, we are committed to 109m under the 2014 cap already. Add in Byrd(4m.....if he gets a long term contract), rookies(4m....pushes others off the top 51), Carrington, Chandler, Moats etc(9m?). That brings us to the estimated cap level of 126m. If rollover money can't be re-rolled we will still have another 9.5m to play with.......or another 19.3m to play with if rollover money can be re-rolled. It should be enough to grab a good FA or 2 IMO.
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 So pretty much like the free agent period we just experienced CBF yea, i would expect similar dealings. We wont need to slash and burn the roster but we can pick up a few vets, extend our guys as needed, etc... It depends if teams can re-roll their rollover or not. Being extremely rough with numbers.... As it stands, we are committed to 109m under the 2014 cap already. Add in Byrd(4m.....if he gets a long term contract), rookies(4m....pushes others off the top 51), Carrington, Chandler, Moats etc(9m?). That brings us to the estimated cap level of 126m. If rollover money can't be re-rolled we will still have another 9.5m to play with.......or another 19.3m to play with if rollover money can be re-rolled. It should be enough to grab a good FA or 2 IMO. and will likely see a guy or two retire or cut or restructure his numbers down.... really, we are in very comfortable shape even if you cant re-rollover.
Big Turk Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) Yes, we are in a good to very good cap situation in relation to the rest of the NFL no matter how you slice it. Only 10 teams have more cap room than the Bills next year, and most of those have 6-7 fewer players under contract, and one only has 28! Players under contract. Edited September 12, 2013 by matter2003
Dibs Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 yea, i would expect similar dealings. We wont need to slash and burn the roster but we can pick up a few vets, extend our guys as needed, etc... and will likely see a guy or two retire or cut or restructure his numbers down.... really, we are in very comfortable shape even if you cant re-rollover. I agree. It will also be the perfect year to sign players onto big contracts as the first year in long term contracts can usually be made to be a relatively low cap hit. And with the concept that matter2003 just raised, that many teams will be struggling with their cap.....we might just be able to pick up a Good FA or 2 and not just the role fillers types that we picked up last off-season.
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Yes, we are in a good to very good cap situation in relation to the rest of the NFL no matter how you slice it. Only 10 teams have more cap room than the Bills next year, and most of those have 6-7 fewer players under contract, and one only has 28! Players under contract. I think many around here would be shocked by what other teams deal with annually managing the cap. If we sign anyone it's doomsday for our future in free agency on the board - truth is you can be very aggressive and still not have much in the way of issues.
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Yes, we are in a good to very good cap situation in relation to the rest of the NFL no matter how you slice it. Only 10 teams have more cap room than the Bills next year, and most of those have 6-7 fewer players under contract, and one only has 28! Players under contract. 28! = 3.0488834461171384e+29 That is, seriously, a lot of players.
papazoid Posted September 12, 2013 Author Posted September 12, 2013 actually I think we will be in good shape salary cap wise. i'm going to predict around plus $25 million in available cap space to start free agency based on the following: plus $19 mil carry over plus $10 mil under the league cap (current $19 - 9 carry over from last year= $10) plus $10 mil saved by not signing any of our own UFA's (Chandler, Carrington, Branch, Moats, Legursky) plus $5 mil by cutting some big names (kolb, brad smith) plus $5 mil by cutting low level players minus $17 mil in automatic increases to core players minus $5 mil in rookie allotment minus $2 mil in Byrd's long term deal (over the current $7 mil tag value) if Byrd is traded, this turns into a plus $7 mil
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