zow2 Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 I know a lot of EJ's passes were uncatchable yesterday, but gosh, TJ is just invisible out there. I have zero confidence that he would EVER come down with a reception like Santonio Holmes did yesterday for the winning TD. Unless TJ is wide open (which never seems to happen)....i don't see him catching many balls. He's not going to outjump or outfight anyone downfield. I'd much rather have a slow guy like David Nelson, who gets open and is relevant during games....than an invisible WR like TJ Graham.
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 It may be hard to get open if the defender knows what route you are going to run pre-snap even if you are faster than a speeding bullet.
Helpmenow Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Most receivers take, on average, 3-4 years to develop. Graham is raw; give him time. . How much time do you have. Time is on my side, yes it is
MClem06 Posted September 23, 2013 Author Posted September 23, 2013 I think this coaching staff will be too afraid to change things at WR. They'll ride him the entire season even if he doesn't show up. Once Goodwin arrives at full health take TJ out of the equation and put him on kick returns.. oh wait he fumbles there too. The guy can't play and should be off this team. Goodwin and Easley deserve a better shot at game time.
QCity Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 With Goodwin injured, I think it's time to see what Easley can do in a starting role.
mountainwampus Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 This experiment is over. It's been over. He doesn't have a shred of skill. The fact that TJ is still out there, starting and finishing games, is deeply troubling. He made no attempt to catch 2 or 3 sideline passes inbounds (one of them he never even saw coming). At least TRY to drag your feet or contort your body. Has TJ ever made a textbook sideline catch? Has he ever dragged feet to stay inbounds? As bad as he is along the sidelines, why does he run his routes on the very edge, giving EJ very little room for error? Epic bust. TY Hilton has been making spectacular catches. Russell Wilson is poised for a Super Bowl run, but we passed on both, traded up and drafted Graham.
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Easley or Hogan over Graham seems like a no-brainer at this point. While EJ tries to improve his accuracy, some targets who actually go after the ball and have a bit more size would help him out.
RyanC883 Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Hogan should def be playing more. We don't need more "burners" like TJ on this team. We need guys like Hogan who can get open and provide a rookie QB a reliable check-down, crossing pattern option. (similar to what a top TE would do.).
jumbalaya Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Roscoe Parrish was better than TJ and Roscoe sucked. So far, Goodwin has shown to be clones of these two. Easley is out there making play after play on special teams. At least try him on offense. You cannot do worse.
MClem06 Posted September 23, 2013 Author Posted September 23, 2013 I would gain more respect for the coaches if we saw this move being made the next game. If the fans can see it as evident as it is i would hope the coaches would change things up. SJ, Woods, Easley/Goodwin, Hogan, CUT or TRADE TJ for a 7th rounder if he's worth that.
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Roscoe Parrish was better than TJ and Roscoe sucked. Roscoe didn't suck. He was not very smart, and he was pretty tiny and brittle, but he is a much more dynamic playmaker than Graham has proven to be, yet.
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Seems lkieTJ can't cut or run routes. Maybe end a round a few times, quick slants or bubble screens. Other than that I'd start Easley, Woods and SJ and avoid TJ.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Graham is not worth it for the one thing he supposedly does well, catching deep passes. Bad route runner, among the worst hands of any WR in the league, no physicality, and the Bills continue to use him often underneath which I cannot understand. And he's not much on special teams. I've never understood what the Bills see in this kid. You know I'd add Catching deep passes isn't even something we know he does well, he run fast well. That's really all we know. I'd like to know why they dont plug in Easely just to see what else we have going. At panthers game he was noticeably a bigger strong looking WR and I believe has decent speed as well.
starrymessenger Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 TJ is a good football player. Good flag football player that is.
RyanC883 Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 TJ is a good football player. Good flag football player that is. As long as Rodgers is covering him.
Webster Guy Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 That 3rd down play where EJ lofted it along the sideline really high and short over the defender was another example of TJ's horrible field awareness. If he had stayed in bounds ten feet instead of running to the edge to catch that little pass it's a first down. The announcer pointed it out as well. Said it was the receiver not thinking. I still think TJ has some racy photos of Ralph in a speedo or something and he's using it as blackmail to get on the NFL playing field, because he's clearly got no football instincts whatsoever.
zow2 Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 This experiment is over. It's been over. He doesn't have a shred of skill. The fact that TJ is still out there, starting and finishing games, is deeply troubling. He made no attempt to catch 2 or 3 sideline passes inbounds (one of them he never even saw coming). At least TRY to drag your feet or contort your body. Has TJ ever made a textbook sideline catch? Has he ever dragged feet to stay inbounds? As bad as he is along the sidelines, why does he run his routes on the very edge, giving EJ very little room for error? Epic bust. TY Hilton has been making spectacular catches. Russell Wilson is poised for a Super Bowl run, but we passed on both, traded up and drafted Graham. This ^^^^^ TJ has shown me zero WR instincts. Not one single thing. I see 3rd & 4th stringers on Detroit or Arizona who look much more polished.
Kemp Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 No reason to mince words. Graham was a fumbling machine in college. In the NFL he does not even get a chance to fumble. He was rated by one set of metrics as the worst WR in the NFL last year. He should be on the bench or cut. There is no way that Easley is not better right now, and I know that ain't saying much. EJ desperately needs another target.
mountainwampus Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Webster Guy, Remember starting the TJ Graham Oh Dear God thread? This is back when TJ was getting A LOT of chances and we were all still calling for Easley to step in and save our team. Some things never change.
MClem06 Posted September 23, 2013 Author Posted September 23, 2013 Boat out of town and that players that should be on it: TJ Graham, Colin Brown, Justin Rogers. Send em Sailing and not one person will miss them.
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