San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Another consideration - he's only starting his 17th(?) game and still has not gone through a full January to September nfl offseason. He's young, even when compared to luck/Wilson in that regard and kaepernick is a year ahead of that which many forget. It makes sense that he might not look that polished tonight. Another good point. I took him in one of my two fantasy leagues expecting that his performance would improve over the course of the season. I got him in the 5th round as my starter.
NoSaint Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 I'll reserve my opinion until we can make a fair judgement. I enjoy that we played an aging qb and chips playing one of the most lauded in that comparison. Not that we played one of the greatest of all time and their playing a 2nd year guy coming off a major injury. It's quite the easy comparison to make say whatever you want it to
BringBackFergy Posted September 10, 2013 Author Posted September 10, 2013 Vick still has some engine under that hood(y)
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Pass protection doesn't seem to be a strong suit of either of these offenses. Vick continues to put himself in harm's way.
FireChan Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 I enjoy that we played an aging qb and chips playing one of the most lauded in that comparison. Not that we played one of the greatest of all time and their playing a 2nd year guy coming off a major injury. It's quite the easy comparison to make say whatever you want it to If you think Tombo had a good game yesterday, you're losing it. His recievers were awful. He had the worst game he's had against the Bills in a long time. At one point he had a 52 percent completion rating. RG3 did have the injury, I'll give you that. They are still the universal pick to win their division. Eagles were 4-12 last year.
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Pass protection doesn't seem to be a strong suit of either of these offenses. Vick continues to put himself in harm's way. Vick isn't very good at protecting himself
KD in CA Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 If you think Tombo had a good game yesterday, you're losing it. His recievers were awful. He had the worst game he's had against the Bills in a long time. At one point he had a 52 percent completion rating. RG3 did have the injury, I'll give you that. They are still the universal pick to win their division. Eagles were 4-12 last year. They are? That division is a complete toss up; as it has been for years. There isn't anything close to a 'universal pick' in the NFCE.
NoSaint Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) If you think Tombo had a good game yesterday, you're losing it. His recievers were awful. He had the worst game he's had against the Bills in a long time. At one point he had a 52 percent completion rating. RG3 did have the injury, I'll give you that. They are still the universal pick to win their division. Eagles were 4-12 last year. Not trying to totally discount your statement, as it may be closer to the truth than the opposite- just pointing out how easy it is to flip upside down. I simply tend to disagree about which qb I'd want week one of 2013 to win 1 game. The eagles look good. They have a shot to be a niners style turnaround. A team stacked with talent that doesn't have the coaching or leadership to make them competitive - and then found it. Chip could be their harbaugh. As SJBF pointed out earlier we were closer to a blank slate while they had the "dream team." Of course in 3 weeks Vick might have 6 fumbles and 4 broken ribs. Edited September 10, 2013 by NoSaint
BringBackFergy Posted September 10, 2013 Author Posted September 10, 2013 Philly with "prevent less defense"??
FireChan Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 They are? That division is a complete toss up; as it has been for years. There isn't anything close to a 'universal pick' in the NFCE. They won it last year, and were the only team to make the playoffs in it. I know it's close, but it's not like the safe money wasn't on the young stud QB rather than streaky Eli, choky Romo, and glass bones Vick.
NoSaint Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 They won it last year, and were the only team to make the playoffs in it. I know it's close, but it's not like the safe money wasn't on the young stud QB rather than streaky Eli, choky Romo, and glass bones Vick. Yea, the one legged wonder child likely had a plurality but id think you'd be hard pressed to give any team even a majority. We're potentially talking all 4 teams between 8-8 and 10-6 for instance. At that point it's a couple good/bad breaks- bounces, tipped balls, knees giving out
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 This is weird. In most games I can figure out who I want to win. In this game, I want both teams to lose.
FireChan Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 This is weird. In most games I can figure out who I want to win. In this game, I want both teams to lose. Tie. Hope for the tie.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Tie. Hope for the tie. I guess. In this game I'm ambivalent. In the other game I'm apathetic. Not sure how a Houston/San Diego matchup merits MNF.
Bangarang Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 I have such low expectations for the Texans/Chargers game
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Hopefully we'll be pleasantly surprised. That was as bad a safety play as I've ever seen. How is it that the Cheatriots*** drafted that guy 34th overall?
KD in CA Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 They won it last year, and were the only team to make the playoffs in it. I know it's close, but it's not like the safe money wasn't on the young stud QB rather than streaky Eli, choky Romo, and glass bones Vick. The safe money was on the guy with the shredded knee rather than the 2 time SB MVP or the guy who threw for 4900 yards last year? Not my money. 4 different division winners in the last 4 years. That division is wide open as usual.
Bangarang Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Eagles only have 20 plays in the 2nd half and 75 for the game. You mean 100 plays a game isn't sustainable?
Mike in Syracuse Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 As impressive as the Phlly offense in the 1st half I don't believe it's sustainable for two reasons: 1. NFL defensive coordinator are too good to not figure out a plan to counter it, or at least slow it down. 2. Vick and Jackson won't survive the season.
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