BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 It was readily apparent after the 1st quarter. Hacket and Marrone unable to adapt their scheme. Too fosued on Spiller. Dissapointing start with both of them.
Fixxxer Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 If I were an offensive coach, I would focus my offense on Spiller, so I don't see a problem here. I would be disappointed in him fumbling the ball and not being decisive to the hole.
zow2 Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Clearly Gailey was onto something by always using Fred. He just a better back between the tackles. That simple. CJ is explosive or gets a 1 yard gain.
Dibs Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 It was readily apparent after the 1st quarter. Hacket and Marrone unable to adapt their scheme. Too fosued on Spiller. Dissapointing start with both of them. 1st half: Freddy = 5 carries, Spiller = 9 carries 2nd half: Fredy = 9 carries, Spiller = 8 carries What game were you watching?
FireChan Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 1st half: Freddy = 5 carries, Spiller = 9 carries 2nd half: Fredy = 9 carries, Spiller = 8 carries What game were you watching? Should have been Freddy = 15, Spiller = 2. Spiller probably could've gotten 40 yards too.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 8, 2013 Author Posted September 8, 2013 If I were an offensive coach, I would focus my offense on Spiller, so I don't see a problem here. I would be disappointed in him fumbling the ball and not being decisive to the hole. It's not about going into the game featuring Spiller. I get that! It's about adapting IN-GAME realizing Jackson was the better matchup against their scheme today.
Bangarang Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 During the preseason, nobody even wanted CJ to play so he wouldn't get hurt because of the impact he has on this team. Now he sucks and needs to play behind Fred again.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 8, 2013 Author Posted September 8, 2013 1st half: Freddy = 5 carries, Spiller = 9 carries 2nd half: Fredy = 9 carries, Spiller = 8 carries What game were you watching? Do you even know how to interpet # of carries. Your argument even shows Jackson wasn't "featured". At the very best Jackson had split carries with Spiller. My whole point is Jackson should have received the majority of the carries after the 1st quarter. More apparent strategy to focus on at halftime. So you just proved my point, didn't you? During the preseason, nobody even wanted CJ to play so he wouldn't get hurt because of the impact he has on this team. Now he sucks and needs to play behind Fred again. It's not about playing behind Jackson. Spiller is the starting RB. But when you see a matchup, don't you want to take adavantage of it? The Bills coaching staff didn't realize this which is concerning.
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 I am in full agreement. NE was not prepared well for Jackson, and they knew exactly how to stop Spiller given the manner in which he was being used. Smart coaches adjust. Prove it, Doug. Jackson should easily have had 100 yards today.
Dibs Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Do you even know how to interpet # of carries. Your argument even shows Jackson wasn't "featured". At the very best Jackson had split carries with Spiller. My whole point is Jackson should have received the majority of the carries after the 1st quarter. More apparent strategy to focus on at halftime. So you just proved my point, didn't you? It's not about playing behind Jackson. Spiller is the starting RB. But when you see a matchup, don't you want to take adavantage of it? The Bills coaching staff didn't realize this which is concerning. Your initial post said "It was readily apparent after the 1st quarter. Hacket and Marrone unable to adapt their scheme. Too fosued on Spiller." I would say that changing Freddy's carries from 36% in the first half to 53% in the second half showed that they actually did adapt their scheme to the situation at hand.
Bangarang Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Do you even know how to interpet # of carries. Your argument even shows Jackson wasn't "featured". At the very best Jackson had split carries with Spiller. My whole point is Jackson should have received the majority of the carries after the 1st quarter. More apparent strategy to focus on at halftime. So you just proved my point, didn't you? It's not about playing behind Jackson. Spiller is the starting RB. But when you see a matchup, don't you want to take adavantage of it? The Bills coaching staff didn't realize this which is concerning. Or maybe they realized that CJ can take any play to the house so you have to assume you keep giving him the ball because of what he can do. It didn't happen today.
Webster Guy Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 I like the fact that we came out with 5 straight run calls on offense to start the second half. Trying to understand why CJ wasn't given more screens, slants, pitches etc. (space plays. he needs space) Hackett would do well to go back and watch Chan's screen game more carefully, he was great at drawing them up and getting CJ in the best position to use his wheels.
ALLEN1QB Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 it's obvious that Jackson should be the starting running back on this team.for some reason Spiller still has not learned that's when you have one or two yards to go for a first down you head straight up field. he is still dancing at the line drives me crazy head up field man!
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Or maybe they realized that CJ can take any play to the house so you have to assume you keep giving him the ball because of what he can do. It didn't happen today. No doubt, but is he usually taking it to the house on delayed runs between the tackles?
bladiebla Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 The bottomline is run CJ on the outside not the inside, have Fred run the inside. Sure it's gonna be transparent that way, but that is clearly where their strenghts are (and their weaknesses vica versa).
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 The bottomline is run CJ on the outside not the inside, have Fred run the inside. Sure it's gonna be transparent that way, but that is clearly where their strenghts are (and their weaknesses vica versa). There's the adage (loosely paraphrased) that the great teams are so good that even when you know what's coming, you can't stop them. I'd like them to take this approach with CJ. They are clearly trying (and failing) to fit a round peg into a square hole by asking CJ to be a between the tackles runner. It's not his game. Get him in space and there will always be danger. It won't work all the time but the percentages are in your favor. If you find he's being well covered, someone else will be open.
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Thought with 4 to 5 mins left we should have slowed down by running the clock down and utilizing freddy, who was more effective today for whatever reason.
TPS Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 I am in full agreement. NE was not prepared well for Jackson, and they knew exactly how to stop Spiller given the manner in which he was being used. Smart coaches adjust. Prove it, Doug. Jackson should easily have had 100 yards today. yes, it's not about FJ better than spiller, it's that FJ was their best offensive weapon in THIS game, so "run him until he pukes" Hackett!
BillsWatch Posted September 9, 2013 Posted September 9, 2013 The bottomline is run CJ on the outside not the inside, have Fred run the inside. Sure it's gonna be transparent that way, but that is clearly where their strenghts are (and their weaknesses vica versa). CJ can run on the inside. For that he needs a scheme which creates holes and slant lanes that Spiller can utilize to get his runs up the middle. He is not a break the tackle back like Jackson.
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