taterhill Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 You might want to pick someone more in your league...maybe Ron Artest or Randy Moss or the like. You know, someone "powerful"... 206574[/snapback] another day, another tired repeat joke...wow what a shocker
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 Getting back to the original question (rather than various speech-to-text promouncements) in layman's terms the CBA governing NFL players is in essence the framework for rules underlying the growing partnershp between the NFL (owners) and NFLPA (players). This partnership is a maturation of a relationship that hit its low point in the mid-80s when the owners beat the crap out of the players who were demanding 52% of the gross receipts of the NFL be devoted to players' salaries. They made this demand under the leadership of Ed Garvey and tried to force the issue and gain a victory by striking. The NFL responded by hiring replacement players and marketing their product and basically broke the union. Under the leadership of NFLPA President Gene Upshaw, the NFLPA adopted a new strategy in the post-Garvey era and moved to decertify itself as the representative for the players. This would actually have forced the owners to compete against each other in the free market for players. The highesr bidder in essence would buy the best players as it was actually through the cooperation of the NFLPA that the NFL is able to use non-free market restraints on free trade like the NFL draft, fines of players based on consistent rules, etc. In the face of not being willing or able to do business in a free market, the NFL instead agreed to formulate a basic partnership with the players where they now get approximately 70% of the DEFINED gross in salaries. This defined amount is less than the actual gross as it does not include important revenue streams like club seats in stadiums. However, due to the stability and security that the CNA provides even this lesser defined gross is far more money than the players would have gotten even if they had received 52% of the old total gross receipts. In general many posters and fans are stuck in the old mode of thinking that their is a zero-sum competitive war going on between the players and owners, Actually they have now recognized that they are partners and through co-operation defined in the CBA (and mostly enforced through all parties having to share total information about the salaries they pay) they both make tons nore money (mostly through the cashcow of TV) bu co-operating rather than fighting. In general though we humans seem to love fighting this is actually true of most things.
DC Tom Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 Oh man, you're sad... 206579[/snapback] "Phenominally".
GG Posted January 15, 2005 Posted January 15, 2005 Getting back to the original question (rather than various speech-to-text promouncements) in layman's terms the CBA governing NFL players is in essence the framework for rules underlying the growing partnershp between the NFL (owners) and NFLPA (players). 206584[/snapback] How do you know he was asking about the NFL CBA?
stevestojan Posted January 15, 2005 Author Posted January 15, 2005 "Phenominally". 206592[/snapback] wow...
Dan Gross Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 another day, another tired repeat joke...wow what a shocker 206583[/snapback] another thread, another tired repeat effort at backing up steve by tater... wow, what a shocker. And look, a "you're sad" response from steve (how long did you take deciding between that and a glass/ceramic reference?)...we've hit the "here we go again" trifecta folks...
taterhill Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 another thread, another tired repeat effort at backing up steve by tater... wow, what a shocker. And look, a "you're sad" response from steve (how long did you take deciding between that and a glass/ceramic reference?)...we've hit the "here we go again" trifecta folks... 206851[/snapback] who are you again?
DC Tom Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 another thread, another tired repeat effort at backing up steve by tater... wow, what a shocker. And look, a "you're sad" response from steve (how long did you take deciding between that and a glass/ceramic reference?)...we've hit the "here we go again" trifecta folks... 206851[/snapback] Must be time-sharing the same brain...
taterhill Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Must be time-sharing the same brain... 206856[/snapback] yes you figured it out..congrats
Dan Gross Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 who are you again? 206854[/snapback] Someone who is sick of this playground stevestojan in every other thread. Or, to put it in terms you might understand: "I know you are but what am I?"
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