mead107 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 is he a top 5 back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 This is contrary to what every one of Henry's teammates (you know guys like Bledsoe, Moulds, Willis McGahee) and coaches (and TD) have said. But, I know, you have had your iso camera on him since Willis McGahee was drafted, and you say he was "nothing but a disruptive cancer the whole time", so I will take your word. My less obsessive eyes/ears only saw a guy who played hard, and was a disappointed to be told, basically, "you're best isn't good enough". He never came out and claimed he was a better back than McGahee. He merely stated that he wanted to be starting somewhere. He made very few complaints, and when he did, at least what I observed, he was normally goaded into it by reporters. Virtually every interview I have heard with him over the last year and a half started something like "Travis, how disappointed were you when the Bills drafted Willis McGahee", or "Travis, how does it feel to lose your job to Willis McGahee?", and so on and so forth. I never heard McGahee go off on any tirades. He asked to be traded, the day after the season ended. Why condemn him for that? The Bills are treating him like a commodity. If McGahee had gone down during the season (thank god he didn't), I have no doubt that Henry would have played as hard as we were accustomed to (remember, before we started hating him!). 206625[/snapback] I agree - he did what a competitor should be expected to do/say without causing any REAL disruptions. He never had a "I'll play when I want to play" attitude. I don't know where this cancer crap is coming from; because he said a few things after the draft and after the season. He didn't demand 25 carries against Pittsburgh in the midst of our winning streak and disrupt cowbell. Now he's living in a fantasy world if he thinks he's a top 5 RB, but that's beside the point. However, if the Dolphins gave up a 3rd rounder for Lamar freaking Gordon, then I wouldn't accept anything less than a 2nd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30dive Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I trust TD will only trade TH to 'phins for "Top 5 RB" value, ie. a first round draft choice. And seeing that the Dolphins don't have a first round draft choice, or a second, any trade to the Dolphins would require a third team. Sorry TH but you real ought not to get to excited about the prospects of playing in sunny Miami. Oh I think its fair to say that you will not be in Buffalo in '05 but nor will you be in Miami, you will need to look west young man. Oh and I am sure that there are many teams in which TD would trade you to for fair market value, of which "top 5 RB" TH you are not. Second round or even third round would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I wish Travis good luck. You can't blame him for wanting to start somewhere and play. I do think he is overstating his value though. He played his heart out for the Bills and played injured throughout his tenure here. Cannot have anything but respect for him. Bottom line though is that WM is the better back and does not fumble or make as many mistakes as TH. I do think he will find it much more competitive than he thinks at finding and beating out other backs. This is the NFL and you have to expect competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Top 5? HAHAHA Someone should tell that to Edgerin James, Corey Dillon, Shawn Alexander, Curtis Martin, Tiki Barber, Willis McGahee, LaDainian Tomlinson, Clinton Portis, Ruben Droughns (sp?), Warrick Dunn, Duece Mcalister, Jamal Lewis, Rudi Johnson, Jerome Bettis, Ahman Green, Priest Holmes, Duce Staley, Kevin Jones, or Chris Brown... LATER TRAVIS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 If Rudi Johnson and Alexander leave their teams, then Cincinatti and Seattle will need backs. Its a net wash. Lamont Jordan will be a good back in this league. The rest of those players mentioned are nothing more than backups. Teams that need a RB Miami Cincinnatti (might be sold on chris perry...but im not) Indianapolis Tennessee (Chris Brown is good, but cant stay healthy) Denver (Droghns is a fluke...but denver doesnt know it yet) Oakland Philadelphia (Westbrook is a FA) Minnesota Arizona (Emmitt cant run forever) San Francisco (Barlow causing problems in SF) Seattle (Alexander FA) Available Rudi Johnson Lamont Jordan Edgirrin James Cedric Benson Carnell Williams Ronnie Brown Westbrook Travis Henry So, by my calculation 11 teams need a RB. I will leave out Denver and even Tennessee, since they probably wont be in the market for one. That leaves 9 teams. There are 8 available backs that I can think of. Demand exceeds supply. Always good news for a seller. And with the exception of Edgirrin James, TH is probably the best back of the bunch. Now, tell me the names of 10 other RBs i forgot...cuz im sure they are out there. 206587[/snapback] one player you're forgetting in this list is najeh davenport. a lot of people in the league apparently think he's got the skills to be an every-down back. he has looked good in spot duty for green bay, i must say ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I think you guys are being too hard on TH. He gave 100% here and just got beat out by a better back. Have a little sympathy for the guy he's not the brightest and his contract was more than reasonable. He deserves to get paid somewhere else preferably not Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 love this subject , i just not sure where to post this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg de'Ville Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 ...not the way he played early this season. He played like crap and deserved to lose his starting spot to McGahee. Time to turn the page with TH and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 he's not the brightest 209708[/snapback] the "Understatement of the Day" award goes to........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 love this subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I refuse to crap on TH..he was a solid player for us. If we had to trade a player for him...who would we take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 But Miami doesn't even HAVE a 2nd rounder... so now what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 What a little punk...LOL! If Travis Henry is a top 5 RB in the NFl, i guess about 16-17 teams are also looking for new running backs? http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/cont..._fins_0118.html Hey Henry did you take the 14 year old girl to the Florida Storage room to? 209665[/snapback] I fail to see why you and others wouldget your panties all up in a wad because a player or a even a GM would make an obvously false claim of being the greatest thing since sliced bread when they are trying to get top trade value and a good contract. Everyone with half a brain no regardless of Henry or anyone's claims that they are both a floor wax and a dessert topping that its not true. I hope you don't get pissed when you hear drug company ads, the coffee companies claim that coffee perks you up and it calms you down or that you don't buy cigarette company claims. Such negotiating tactics are commonplace and actually expected or demanded of today's athlete who if he doesn't feel supreme confidence in himself and his play he hits the hole with a fear of being hit. I see the spurious claims by an athlete who is going to be negotiated for when it comes down to TD and someone talking rather than be the principle for an actual deal to be negotiated with over his trade value as exactly the thing we want him to be saying right now so that the Bills can get the maximum possible trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Top 5? HAHAHA Someone should tell that to Edgerin James, Corey Dillon, Shawn Alexander, Curtis Martin, Tiki Barber, Willis McGahee, LaDainian Tomlinson, Clinton Portis, Ruben Droughns (sp?), Warrick Dunn, Duece Mcalister, Jamal Lewis, Rudi Johnson, Jerome Bettis, Ahman Green, Priest Holmes, Duce Staley, Kevin Jones, or Chris Brown... LATER TRAVIS! 209706[/snapback] You forgot Domanik Davis, Thomas Jones, and Julius Jones. The last two which were injured half the year and still put up great numbers, and help their teams out a lot. Oh and Fred Taylor truely is a top 5 back when healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Trading Travis Henry to Miami would be a mistake unless we get something we absolutely can't refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 is he a top 5 back ? 209692[/snapback] If you count Rickey, TH might not even be in the top 5 in the AFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 If you count Rickey, TH might not even be in the top 5 in the AFC East. 209748[/snapback] Well let's see: Willis Martin Dillon Lamont Jordan and Travis are even, depending on who you talk to. So even with Ricky, Travis is top 5 in the East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Well let's see: Willis Martin Dillon Lamont Jordan and Travis are even, depending on who you talk to. So even with Ricky, Travis is top 5 in the East. 209758[/snapback] He'd be #6 if you accept the argument that Lamont is better than Travis (which I don't, but it sure points out how silly the 'top 5 back in the league' statement is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Another disgrace of a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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