Beerball Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 The devices track and log information like movement, speed and acceleration. They add facts and figures to observation, helping keep tabs on a potentially overworked player
Just in Atlanta Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Hopefully, it can help them find the endzone.
sds7973 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 If they had this when T.O. was here they would have seen an underworked wide receiver!
K-9 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 The devices track and log information like movement, speed and acceleration. They add facts and figures to observation, helping keep tabs on a potentially overworked player Keeping tabs on potentially overworked players is just another way of saying they're finding out who's dogging it out there. GO BILLS!!!
Webster Guy Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Ok now lets get a laser system on the sidelines for measuring first downs instead of this stupid "hey lets tie a chain between two posts and have guys run out into the middle of the field to measure something that a sideline laser can do more accurately in one second" Every time they stop a game and make millions (sometimes hundreds of millions) of people wait for this medieval measurement technique I laugh my ass off at how stupid it is. And while I'm solving problems there should be an infrared one at each goal line that is constantly on. If the refs are unsure if the ball crossed the plane they can simply check the monitor and see if the ball was lit up. Sometimes it wont be possible to see because of bodies in the way (in which case we use the current replay guessing game) but it would certainly help give certain proof in many situations. Now if could only develop a qb robot..............
bills7834 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Ok now lets get a laser system on the sidelines for measuring first downs instead of this stupid "hey lets tie a chain between two posts and have guys run out into the middle of the field to measure something that a sideline laser can do more accurately in one second" Every time they stop a game and make millions (sometimes hundreds of millions) of people wait for this medieval measurement technique I laugh my ass off at how stupid it is. And while I'm solving problems there should be an infrared one at each goal line that is constantly on. If the refs are unsure if the ball crossed the plane they can simply check the monitor and see if the ball was lit up. Sometimes it wont be possible to see because of bodies in the way (in which case we use the current replay guessing game) but it would certainly help give certain proof in many situations. Now if could only develop a qb robot.............. +1 I say the same thing to whoever is lucky enough to watch the game with me.
The Big Cat Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Ok now lets get a laser system on the sidelines for measuring first downs instead of this stupid "hey lets tie a chain between two posts and have guys run out into the middle of the field to measure something that a sideline laser can do more accurately in one second" Every time they stop a game and make millions (sometimes hundreds of millions) of people wait for this medieval measurement technique I laugh my ass off at how stupid it is. And while I'm solving problems there should be an infrared one at each goal line that is constantly on. If the refs are unsure if the ball crossed the plane they can simply check the monitor and see if the ball was lit up. Sometimes it wont be possible to see because of bodies in the way (in which case we use the current replay guessing game) but it would certainly help give certain proof in many situations. Now if could only develop a qb robot.............. Yep. There's absolutely no reason why they can't embed a positioning chip inside the ball, either .
White Linen Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000223880/article/buffalo-bills-use-gps-devices-to-track-players-practice-workload
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Ok now lets get a laser system on the sidelines for measuring first downs instead of this stupid "hey lets tie a chain between two posts and have guys run out into the middle of the field to measure something that a sideline laser can do more accurately in one second" Every time they stop a game and make millions (sometimes hundreds of millions) of people wait for this medieval measurement technique I laugh my ass off at how stupid it is. And while I'm solving problems there should be an infrared one at each goal line that is constantly on. If the refs are unsure if the ball crossed the plane they can simply check the monitor and see if the ball was lit up. Sometimes it wont be possible to see because of bodies in the way (in which case we use the current replay guessing game) but it would certainly help give certain proof in many situations. Now if could only develop a qb robot.............. This is my biggest point of contention with the NFL. You're a multi billion dollar operation with millions bet each game and you have a 70 year old ref "EYE UP" how far he thinks the ball advanced, then he runs in a "straight" line to spot the ball and then you bring out a chain and two sticks to measure it. my favorite is when it's short by an inch. like that ref could spot the ball 5 different ways as he runs from the sideline to the spot. It's ridiculous.
chris heff Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 This is my biggest point of contention with the NFL. You're a multi billion dollar operation with millions bet each game and you have a 70 year old ref "EYE UP" how far he thinks the ball advanced, then he runs in a "straight" line to spot the ball and then you bring out a chain and two sticks to measure it. my favorite is when it's short by an inch. like that ref could spot the ball 5 different ways as he runs from the sideline to the spot. It's ridiculous. You would think there is some technology that could improve upon this. It is not only ridiculous it has to be archaic.
Just Jack Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 What's the matter Beerball? Can't figure out how to search for previous threads? Or did you want all the glory of finding a new article about the same subject? http://forums.twobil...nting-analytics http://forums.twobil...players-at-camp
ganesh Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Yep. There's absolutely no reason why they can't embed a positioning chip inside the ball, either . Considering that they have been using these chips for Running now for over a decade.
Just Jack Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Yep. There's absolutely no reason why they can't embed a positioning chip inside the ball, either . Tracking is why. You'd have to put so many sensors in the ground to keep track that there is no way to get the accuracy down to a point of no error. I used to install tracking systems at retirement homes so they could locate Alzheimer/Dementia patients and even putting sensors in every 20 feet there was a margin of error of 10 feet.
The Big Cat Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Considering that they have been using these chips for Running now for over a decade. That's what I was thinking...nowadays they're the size of a twist-tie. Tracking is why. You'd have to put so many sensors in the ground to keep track that there is no way to get the accuracy down to a point of no error. I used to install tracking systems at retirement homes so they could locate Alzheimer/Dementia patients and even putting sensors in every 20 feet there was a margin of error of 10 feet. See above. Also, then dig up the fields and embed the same technology used during road races every 15 feet...
BillsVet Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 That analytics department must be burning the midnight oil now with all this data pouring in.
Just Jack Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 That's what I was thinking...nowadays they're the size of a twist-tie. See above. Also, then dig up the fields and embed the same technology used during road races every 15 feet... I did see above. But having used the technology in real life situations, I know you will not get the pin point accuracy needed to know if the ball crossed the goal line, or first down, etc. You'll be able to tell if it's close, but not perfect. RFID is not GPS. And even GPS is not perfect.
Nanker Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 I remember when Vinny Testaverde scored a touchdown with his helmet. The ball was a yard short of the goal line when he was down by contact. Dennis Erickson remembers it too... all too well in fact. Seahawks lost the game on a totally bogus call, and Erickson lost his job.
microscopes Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) What's the matter Beerball? Can't figure out how to search for previous threads? Or did you want all the glory of finding a new article about the same subject? http://forums.twobil...nting-analytics http://forums.twobil...players-at-camp LOL. I was just about to do the: [This is an automated response] This subject matter is being currently being discussed or has already been discussed in a previous thread. Please consider using the "search" function before starting new topics. Thank you. But I thought it might be taken the wrong way, and not as a joke. Edited September 5, 2013 by microscopes
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) What really gets me about the 1st down chains is they bring the chains out and measure within +/- one link whether they got the first down or not. Mean while when they first set the sticks on 1st down, how do they know they weren't six inches off to start with. Why worry about an inch at the end when you have no idea where you started from. They may have only gone 9 1/2 yards to get the first, so why worry about an inch now. As for QB robots, think Stepford wives! I've been promoting that for years! Ok now lets get a laser system on the sidelines for measuring first downs instead of this stupid "hey lets tie a chain between two posts and have guys run out into the middle of the field to measure something that a sideline laser can do more accurately in one second" Every time they stop a game and make millions (sometimes hundreds of millions) of people wait for this medieval measurement technique I laugh my ass off at how stupid it is. And while I'm solving problems there should be an infrared one at each goal line that is constantly on. If the refs are unsure if the ball crossed the plane they can simply check the monitor and see if the ball was lit up. Sometimes it wont be possible to see because of bodies in the way (in which case we use the current replay guessing game) but it would certainly help give certain proof in many situations. Now if could only develop a qb robot.............. Edited September 5, 2013 by Ed_Roch
maddenboy Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 What's the matter Beerball? Can't figure out how to search for previous threads? Or did you want all the glory of finding a new article about the same subject? http://forums.twobil...nting-analytics http://forums.twobil...players-at-camp Oooooooooooooh !!!!!! Mod on Mod crime !!! Fight! Fight! (And maybe rip her bra off. And maybe kiss?)
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