shibuya Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 More then likely this is all Parker and Parker is desperately trying to save face with his client, to whom he over sold his worth and cost him plenty of solid guaranteed money. Maybe Byrd will actually grow MORE tired of Parker's BS the more he gets to stew on the reality that he gave up great money because he was told he deserved the highest paid S money and should not cave. No team is going to pony up a 1st rd pick + for a gimpy S who's agent is Parker.
marauderswr80 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Byrd is overrated...bottom line. Yea the guy has made a few plays...but most were on poorly thrown balls. If he don't want to be here get the cancer out!
26CornerBlitz Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 The Bills placed a non-exclusive Tag on Byrd and if there was a deal to be made it would have already taken place. Parker can fan the flames as much as he wants to no avail unless OBD decides to facilitate a trade with a potential dance partner. Don't see it happening this season with the PF being a concern.
BuffaloBob Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) his value means nothing to him at this point however. All it does is affect OUR trade value for him. If he wanted to, when talking to other teams he can easily say that he can okay with this injury. Or that its getting better. Or Parker can work his magic and say that Turd is just taking things easy until he gets a long term deal. Big money teams understand this and would commit to a long term deal handshake to be in place at the end of the season. A handshake deal just ain't gonna cut it! Would you trust Parker to live up to it?? What if some other team comes along with an EVEN BETTER DEAL? And gee, it's the team Jairus has always wanted to play for. You gonna tell me ole Eugene is not gonna try to squeeze out some more money when he hasn't contractually bound his client. Moreover, what if Byrd gets hurt, and suddenly his value plummets? You think the team is going to sign him to some huge deal just because they agreed with a wink and a nod that they were going to do a long-term deal after the season is over? I rather doubt either side would make such a gentlemen's commitment, given how circumstances can change. You are really rolling the dice if you trade for him and value him as anything more than a rental player for the season, with hopefully an inside track to sign him long-term after the season. Maybe you could find a team willing to trade a 5th that would become a third if he signs long-term, but as an NFL GM, how much compensation do you commit under those circumstances? Edited September 5, 2013 by BuffaloBob
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 My personal "best case scenario": - Byrd continues to fake/refuse to play through his little injury. - Gets a sliver in his ass while riding the bench. - Sliver gets infected and requires amputation of his legs. - Byrd runs over Parker with his hoverround ending his reign of terror. - Bills win the superbowl on a last second interception and TD return by whoever happens to be playing FS at that time.
NoSaint Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Byrd is overrated...bottom line. Yea the guy has made a few plays...but most were on poorly thrown balls. If he don't want to be here get the cancer out! so most of his high end play the last four years amounts to a couple of poorly thrown balls?
BuffaloBob Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 The Bills placed a non-exclusive Tag on Byrd and if there was a deal to be made it would have already taken place. Parker can fan the flames as much as he wants to no avail unless OBD decides to facilitate a trade with a potential dance partner. Don't see it happening this season with the PF being a concern. Totally agree. I think the Bills would have traded him for a first prior to the long-term deal deadline in July if they could have. I just don't think anyone was willing to do it. Who is going now pony up worthy player or draft pick compensation given his "condition" as well as the fact you can't be guaranteed he will re-sign anyway. The Bills need to rely on the fact that he ultimately knows he needs to perform this year, and so he better just get his sorry butt onto the field. I have no sympathy for this guy. He could have signed his long-term deal, but it wasn't good enough for him and Eugene. So now deal with it!
BisonMan Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) Two words to someone who wants a trade...CODE RED! Edited September 5, 2013 by BisonMan
The Big Cat Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 What leverage does he possibly have at this point?
eball Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 I'm completely fine with the Bills trading Byrd for no less than a 2nd rounder, but in the meantime, I fully expect Byrd to play his best for the team currently paying his salary.
Fan in Chicago Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Anyone Linky to original article for us? http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/sources-byrd-agent-trying-to-orchestrate-trade-20130904
BuffaloBob Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 More then likely this is all Parker and Parker is desperately trying to save face with his client, to whom he over sold his worth and cost him plenty of solid guaranteed money. Maybe Byrd will actually grow MORE tired of Parker's BS the more he gets to stew on the reality that he gave up great money because he was told he deserved the highest paid S money and should not cave. No team is going to pony up a 1st rd pick + for a gimpy S who's agent is Parker. I completely agree. The Bills had the short-term leverage advantage and the ONLY plays Eugene had were to 1) negotiate the best long-term deal possible, or 2) to demand money the Bills weren't willing to pay and did not have to, and to sit Byrd out of all off-season activities, including camp, to punish the Bills for using that leverage to their advantage. He chose option #2. Then I'm sure came the demand to agree not to tag Byrd again next year, in exchange for his cooperation this season. The Bills did not have to do that either, and they didn't. Now his client is in a tough position because he doesn't have the long-term security he wanted and if he continues to pout and malinger, he's not doing his long-term value any favors. Parker over-played his hand and assumed the Bills would cave because they did it before with Peters. I think the Bills need to stand pat, tag him again next year and then try to get what they can for him.
plenzmd1 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) I'm not sure what you mean in good faith. He set out his demand for the highest safety contract in 2013 free agency Show me one quote where Parker, Byrd, or the Bills have stated this...or stated any demands . I have not seen a one, not saying I did not miss it, but my gut says this is urban myth at this point. Byrd may be asking for less money, but shorter term to get a 3 rd big contract. He could be asking for a structure that the Bills don't like. My point is we HAVE NO IDEA where the sides are apart....neither one has said anything Edited September 5, 2013 by plenzmd1
BuffaloBob Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 I'm completely fine with the Bills trading Byrd for no less than a 2nd rounder, but in the meantime, I fully expect Byrd to play his best for the team currently paying his salary. I'd be fine with a second, but who's going to do that for a rental player with PF?
HeHateMe Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 You make some good points but I have to disagree with #2. There is no way that the Bills are leaking this 4 days before the opener especially since they hold all the cards. If this was in April I might have agreed. This^ knowing he wants a trade gives Buffalo no leverage in making an actual deal since teams would know they just want to dump him... No team will give higher than a 2nd for him.. and at this point with his injury that seems unlikely now.
The Big Cat Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 I completely agree. The Bills had the short-term leverage advantage and the ONLY plays Eugene had were to 1) negotiate the best long-term deal possible, or 2) to demand money the Bills weren't willing to pay and did not have to, and to sit Byrd out of all off-season activities, including camp, to punish the Bills for using that leverage to their advantage. He chose option #2. Then I'm sure came the demand to agree not to tag Byrd again next year, in exchange for his cooperation this season. The Bills did not have to do that either, and they didn't. Now his client is in a tough position because he doesn't have the long-term security he wanted and if he continues to pout and malinger, he's not doing his long-term value any favors. Parker over-played his hand and assumed the Bills would cave because they did it before with Peters. I think the Bills need to stand pat, tag him again next year and then try to get what they can for him. See Below: Show me one quote where Parker, Byrd, or the Bills have stated this...or stated any demands . I have not seen a one, not saying I did not miss it, but my gut says this is urban myth at this point. Byrd may be asking for less money, but shorter term to get a 3 rd big contract. He could be asking for a structure that the Bills don't like. My point is we HAVE NO IDEA where the sides are apart....neither one has said anything RE: above--the article says the sources are other league personnel and an agent not named Parker. So...
iinii Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 The Bills said weeks ago they had explored trade possibilities. One would assume Parker did as well. Both parties have a pretty good idea of what he'll fetch in a trade already. And it ain't good or it would already have been done. GO BILLS!!! K-9, I think you are spot on. He doesn't have the value that he or the Bills thought. Now you are stuck with another disgruntled player who must not be allowed to infect the team. The Bills are on the hook to pay him but we don't have to play him. A year out of the league won't help his value. Best case scenario for us is a contender loses their safety and comes a calling.
K-9 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) I completely agree. The Bills had the short-term leverage advantage and the ONLY plays Eugene had were to 1) negotiate the best long-term deal possible, or 2) to demand money the Bills weren't willing to pay and did not have to, and to sit Byrd out of all off-season activities, including camp, to punish the Bills for using that leverage to their advantage. He chose option #2. Then I'm sure came the demand to agree not to tag Byrd again next year, in exchange for his cooperation this season. The Bills did not have to do that either, and they didn't. Now his client is in a tough position because he doesn't have the long-term security he wanted and if he continues to pout and malinger, he's not doing his long-term value any favors. Parker over-played his hand and assumed the Bills would cave because they did it before with Peters. I think the Bills need to stand pat, tag him again next year and then try to get what they can for him. Parker also had a third option all along: speak to every team in the league to discuss trade possibilities for Byrd. He's had that option ever since Byrd became his client. What Parker won't tell you is that NO team was willing to trade for him at the time. Parker has to drive his price down as a result. And he's doing a good job of it. GO BILLS!!! Edited September 5, 2013 by K-9
papazoid Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 What leverage does he possibly have at this point? parker fanning the flames, trying to get the Fans and the front office to turn on Tyrd , to force a trade. the value for a franchise tagged player is two 1st rounders. the chances of a first round draft choice making the pro bowl twice is 17%. do NOT give in to parkers tricks.
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