GG Posted September 5, 2013 Author Posted September 5, 2013 You said promotion. That was the issue i had I recall reading that in addition to the extension he added some other duties. But even if we stick to your May date, doesn't that make Marrone's comment even more perplexing, when he referred to knowing of a transition when he came in? You'd figure hindsight analysis would be your strong suit?
bobblehead Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 With the apparent need for a story here, it's like watching ESPN
BillsVet Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Bare cupboard? Bills fans seriously like to overlook the talent on the roster. Stevie Johnson is a 1,000 yard receiver Cj Spiller averaged 6 yards per carry last season right up threre with AP A good O line A stud corner in making in Gilmore One of the most talented pass rushers in the game right now A pro bowl safety Yeah, bare cupboard my ass How did they end up 6-10 last season then?
Dragonborn10 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Don't you think every coach they interviewed asked Nix how long he was goign to remain GM. What coach would want to be hired by a GM that was out the door in less than a year without knowing who was going to be the new GM????
CSBill Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) How do you interpret the following? Coming in when - January or May? Well, as his future would be in the GM's hand, whomever it was, I think it was only right he would know if that was already in the works. Edited September 5, 2013 by CSBill
FLbills Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Maybe I'm just a bit slow, but what is the relevance if Marrone knew about it or not? I mean what is the actual debate about? Not trying to be a d!ck here, really just trying to understand.
eball Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 How did they end up 6-10 last season then? Seriously? The lengths to which some will go to further an agenda. #fitzwanny
Captain Hindsight Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 How did they end up 6-10 last season then? A bad qb
K-9 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Of course Marrone knew in January that Whaley was taking over for Buddy Nix. Whaley was with Brandon in AZ as part of the interviewing process for HC and with Brandon, Nix, and Marrone when the went to NJ to court Pettine later on. GO BILLS!!!
NoSaint Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Again, that link is from February, but Marrone's quote was "Coming in, I knew..." So he must have known something in early January not late February, or May when Whaley finally got the job (with an odd delay attached to it). Right but did he know it would be may 2013, or simply when buddy was done sometime soon? And really it doesn't much matter either way I suppose other than simply saying we know instead of think. It doesn't change anything really
GG Posted September 5, 2013 Author Posted September 5, 2013 And really it doesn't much matter either way I suppose other than simply saying we know instead of think. It doesn't change anything really Correct, and it was also evident in how Bills conducted the draft and made the player moves in the spring. It was very un-Buddy like. Yet, Brandon was adamant that nothing had changed in the front office until May 13th. The main reason I brought it up is to show that people shouldn't take what OBD says as gospel. There's always the other side of the story.
eball Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Correct, and it was also evident in how Bills conducted the draft and made the player moves in the spring. It was very un-Buddy like. Yet, Brandon was adamant that nothing had changed in the front office until May 13th. The main reason I brought it up is to show that people shouldn't take what OBD says as gospel. There's always the other side of the story. Who takes what OBD says as gospel? They're still selling that they want to sign Byrd long term. But on this specific point, in order to believe Buddy's exit was "already in motion" when the coaching search was going on, you'd have to call everyone involved a liar. I'm not willing to go that far.
Lurker Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) How do you interpret the following? "Coming in, I did know there was going to be a transition with Doug (Whaley) and Buddy Nix." Actually, who DIDN'T know this. It's been reported for two years that Whaley was being groomed for the GM position. Why shouldn't Marrone know about it as well? http://buffalobillss...y-promoted.html http://profootballta...firing-tracker/ http://www.buffaloru...ger-doug-whaley Edited September 5, 2013 by Lurker
NoSaint Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Correct, and it was also evident in how Bills conducted the draft and made the player moves in the spring. It was very un-Buddy like. Yet, Brandon was adamant that nothing had changed in the front office until May 13th. The main reason I brought it up is to show that people shouldn't take what OBD says as gospel. There's always the other side of the story. Yea - it's ridiculous to think they will give us 100% fact. I don't know if this proves that. What if buddy wanted one more year but post draft and getting his qb of the future (I've suspected this would be the trigger for buddy's exit- drafting a franchise qb) to cement his legacy (good or bad) he decided he had enough?
GG Posted September 5, 2013 Author Posted September 5, 2013 Who takes what OBD says as gospel? They're still selling that they want to sign Byrd long term. But on this specific point, in order to believe Buddy's exit was "already in motion" when the coaching search was going on, you'd have to call everyone involved a liar. I'm not willing to go that far. I think this has been established a long time ago.
eball Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 I think this has been established a long time ago. And I'm perfectly fine with that.
GG Posted September 5, 2013 Author Posted September 5, 2013 What if buddy wanted one more year but post draft and getting his qb of the future (I've suspected this would be the trigger for buddy's exit- drafting a franchise qb) to cement his legacy (good or bad) he decided he had enough? Plausible, but to me, highly unlikely. I think Buddy sealed his fate when he torpedoed the pending negotiations with Fitzpatrick by broadcasting in October that Bills will be looking strongly at replacing him. Apparently that didn't go over well at OBD. Let's not forget that Buddy also replaced Brandon as GM, and my guess is that Brandon wasted no time in telling Nix that his tenure was coming to an end right after he got the presidency gig. All these things make sense especially with Buddy's much lower profile this winter & spring.
NoSaint Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Plausible, but to me, highly unlikely. I think Buddy sealed his fate when he torpedoed the pending negotiations with Fitzpatrick by broadcasting in October that Bills will be looking strongly at replacing him. Apparently that didn't go over well at OBD. Let's not forget that Buddy also replaced Brandon as GM, and my guess is that Brandon wasted no time in telling Nix that his tenure was coming to an end right after he got the presidency gig. All these things make sense especially with Buddy's much lower profile this winter & spring. but the incident you are citing as sealing his fate came AFTER you say the decision was made. in the end though, i still dont think it matters much. clearly the transition has been taking place for a couple years, not a couple months. whether or not they knew the date in january i dont think changes the narrative THAT much. we still wont know decisively what decisions belonged to who this spring.
GG Posted September 5, 2013 Author Posted September 5, 2013 but the incident you are citing as sealing his fate came AFTER you say the decision was made. I'm referring to this commentary on WGR in November
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