dascottbills28 Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 I know this is probably under another thread, but how bad of an injury is plantar faciitis and is it something that Byrd can play with all season and still perform at a high level?
jr1 Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 found this on google http://www.fieldgulls.com/2013-nfl-offseason/2013/5/22/4355994/plantar-fasciitis-the-most-common-cause-of-heel-pain
Green Lightning Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 I had it bad (from teaching step aerobics) and it took about 6 weeks for it to calm down. Still had to ice it and do PT after I began using it in a determined way. It's brutal, especially in the morning.
mrags Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 Is anyone else hear thinking that Byrd is being a baby? Didnt get what he wanted so he fakes injury and makes sure he doesn't get injured all while collecting his $432k a game. Personally I think he's full of it and now I'm no longer happy he signed. I'd rather just cut this pos.
BADOLBILZ Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 I know this is probably under another thread, but how bad of an injury is plantar faciitis and is it something that Byrd can play with all season and still perform at a high level? I have it, it's painful but not unbearable. I can't speak to the degree which Byrd has it but it is basically arthritis pain. He is young enough that it should be manageable, and $7M will buy you some pretty good foot massage therapy.....but extra work aggrivates it so I am guessing he will not be practicing much this season.
NoSaint Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) It is covered in the Byrd injury thread (weird, right?).... its really case by case. When bad - it can be excruciating. Any pressure on the foot is terrible and as a guy that relies on his feet that's no good. It can also effect range of motion and when overcompensating to avoid pain make you more susceptible to other lower body injuries. At one point I had put on a few lbs and around the same time took a job that was essentially 100% standing on a hard surface 40-50 hours per week for a couple months.... After what was probably a month or so I started getting some tingling in the sole of my feet sometimes. After another month it got to the point where the first step out of bed (the worst of the day for someone with it) was absolutely near fall down crippling like stepping on bed bed of nails. Stretching some seemed to help loosen it up, getting off my feet was big. It cleared up pretty easily when I transferred to a desk. I had it bad (from teaching step aerobics) and it took about 6 weeks for it to calm down. Still had to ice it and do PT after I began using it in a determined way. It's brutal, especially in the morning. Yea - just hearing about it today sent a little shiver down my spine remembering those first couple steps in the morning. Edited September 2, 2013 by NoSaint
BADOLBILZ Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 It is covered, and its really case by case. When bad - it can be excruciating. Any pressure on the foot is terrible and as a guy that relies on his feet that's no good. It can also effect range of motion and when overcompensating to avoid pain make you more susceptible to other lower body injuries. At one point I had put on a few lbs and around the same time took a job that was essentially 100% standing on a hard surface 40-50 hours per week for a couple months.... After what was probably a month or so I started getting some tingling in the sole of my feet sometimes. After another month it got to the point where the first step out of bed (the worst of the day for someone with it) was absolutely near fall down crippling like stepping on bed bed of nails. Stretching some seemed to help loosen it up, getting off my feet was big. It cleared up pretty easily when I transferred to a desk. Wouldn't surprise me if Byrd wasn't getting good stretching in. It is important to keep the calves loose, tight calves put a lot of torque on the feet. Botox injections to the calves are now being used as a treatment. I think things are getting better for pf sufferers.
BaaadThingsMan Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 Is anyone else hear thinking that Byrd is being a baby? Didnt get what he wanted so he fakes injury and makes sure he doesn't get injured all while collecting his $432k a game. Personally I think he's full of it and now I'm no longer happy he signed. I'd rather just cut this pos. ....what he said...
boyst Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 I've had it. I'm far from an NFL player, but I have had it numerous times. It's like shin splints on the bottom of your feet or tennis elbow on your feet. I'd get it from track, mostly. It's manageable but not fun.
jackh Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 I suffered from PF for years. My podiatrist tried all sorts of remedies to no avail. Finally one day he was examining my feet and also eyed my shoes. He asked what size shoes I wore. I said, size 11, and that I have been wearing that size for 40 years. He asked me to go to a shoe store and have my feet measured. I did------and measured size 12 and 1/2! My podiatrist told me to throw out all my shoes and to buy new ones that were size 13 because over time my feet had flattened out and grown in shoe size. I followed his instruction, my PF disappeared, and I have not had a recurrence the past 10 years! Can someone get a message to Byrd and tell him to measure his shoe size?!
drnykterstein Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) I love that the best two players on our defense both have plantar fasciitis. That's good right? Is anyone else hear thinking that Byrd is being a baby? Didnt get what he wanted so he fakes injury and makes sure he doesn't get injured all while collecting his $432k a game. Personally I think he's full of it and now I'm no longer happy he signed. I'd rather just cut this pos. Uhm.... the Bills do have a medical staff and they can take x-rays and MRI's and such. Edited September 2, 2013 by conner
bbb Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 When did he get it? He must have it had while he was holding out, right? I don't think you would just get it in a few days of practice, would you?
Dragonborn10 Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 In mild cases it hurts for the first four or five steps after a period of inactivity. After that it doesn't really bother you. The problem is there is no treatment but rest. You an wear boots at night and do special wraps but most of that is just voodoo. He will be fine to play as long as he stays active on the sideline. It will be worse early in the week and get better towards the end of the week. Wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't practice on Wednesdays to allow it to rest. Could he be faking? Maybe? It is a clinical diagnosis meaning an MRI would be normal unless his case was severe. If severe an MRI would show inflammation and even small tears in the fascia. When did he get it? He must have it had while he was holding out, right? I don't think you would just get it in a few days of practice, would you? It typically is an overuse injury. But you can stretch or tear the fascia at anytime. I hurt mine while running a steep uphill trail.
mrags Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 I love that the best two players on our defense both have plantar fasciitis. That's good right? Uhm.... the Bills do have a medical staff and they can take x-rays and MRI's and such. based on what some people are saying, there's no way to determine how bad or painful it is. Only the person with the injury can determine this. Personally, it sounds to me like he's milking it. And personally, if it was my team I'd keep him in the bench all year no matter what. And then do the same thing every possible year I can. If I'm a millionaire owner, I could care less about the money. Byrd is becoming a POS, IMO. No better than McGahee IMO.
White Linen Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 I love that the best two players on our defense both have plantar fasciitis. That's good right? Uhm.... the Bills do have a medical staff and they can take x-rays and MRI's and such. From what I've read it doesn't show up in X-rays. So it is the type of injury that could play into the conspiracy theory of "faking".
NoSaint Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 From what I've read it doesn't show up in X-rays. So it is the type of injury that could play into the conspiracy theory of "faking". Depends on severity. It's a ligament that can tear and be seen but if its just inflamed than its tougher to pick up.
boyst Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 From what I've read it doesn't show up in X-rays. So it is the type of injury that could play into the conspiracy theory of "faking". eh, I dunno...Ever get bad shin splints? Hurts to just walk? Or ever bruise your heel or sole? Not just you, Trip, anyone. There is being hurt and being injured. This is hurt, in most cases, but such a hurt that you really don't want to move. People will be able to tell, people will notice, and then others will talk...when they do we will hear. What this tells me is that Byrd has been training...hard.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) I've had it. I'm far from an NFL player, but I have had it numerous times. It's like shin splints on the bottom of your feet or tennis elbow on your feet. I'd get it from track, mostly. It's manageable but not fun. Yep. Has some unique features - typically the first few steps in the morning or after getting up are extremely painful. Plantar fasciitis is typically an overuse or misuse injury - too much running on hard surfaces, too much standing, in my case the worst bout I had was after portaging on a Boundry Water vacation wearing flimsy, unsupportive shoes. It's also increasingly recognized that plantar fasciitis is kind of a grab-bag diagnosis of pain on the heel/bottom of the foot, and the actual pain may be tendonitis of a long tendon running along the bottom of the foot or inflammation of two muscles, the quadratus plantae and the flexor digitorum brevis The major athletic issue is 1) hindered performance, most people can't find that extra 110% while in great pain 2) increased risk of secondary injuries from changed movements compensating for the pain The usual therapy is anti-inflammatory plus stretching/massage. It's important to ensure that the shoes are correct and compensate for pronation or flat feet, but orthotics/ heel cushions may be of limited help. For me playing the flute would have been of similar effect. Therapeutic taping really helped me - kept me on my feet until the stretching and antiinflammatories took hold. It makes a lot of sense for Byrd to seek specialist advice during preseason to make certain it's the correct diagnosis and rule out a heel spur or other problems and also to try to rest/improve the condition while he can. I suspect it's also the sort of thing many football players "play through" with the help of massage, taping, facilitated stretching and so forth. Edited September 2, 2013 by Hopeful
KeisterHollow Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 If it is one of those injuries - like certain back problems - that appear as symptoms (pain) but do not show up easily in tests, then I could very well see Byrd showing up, signing, taking the money, and then immediately saying he's hurt, got this foot problem. The Bills doctors say they don't see anything wrong, so Byrd goes to a "specialist" who says, plantar fiscitis, and now Byrd has a specialist backing him and doesn't have to practice much, and can be a POS for the season, just to stick it to Buffalo. Is that the case? I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. That's one of the things that KILLS me about the NFL. As far as I'm concerned, if a player doesn't want to be on a team, I'd get rid of him. This money is wasted, and you not only don't get a good player, but you lose the money, and you lose out on getting a replacement who does want to be there. Maybe it isn't the case, but I just get the impression the Bills are losing out big on this one - that Byrd is just going to take that 6.whatever million and not have to actually earn it.
NoSaint Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 based on what some people are saying, there's no way to determine how bad or painful it is. Only the person with the injury can determine this. Personally, it sounds to me like he's milking it. And personally, if it was my team I'd keep him in the bench all year no matter what. And then do the same thing every possible year I can. If I'm a millionaire owner, I could care less about the money. Byrd is becoming a POS, IMO. No better than McGahee IMO. Besides the fact that you've been really angry about him the entire offseason is there anything specific that leads you to that conclusion? What if he shows up and plays well Sunday?
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