ChevyVanMiller Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 'He's never really won any games," Leach said in an interview with SiriusXM NFL Radio. "His entire college career and maybe his high school career as well, he's never really gotten into a rhythm, between injuries and just being moved around a bit, with new coaches."' http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp13/story/_/id/9604561/mike-leach-curious-see-jeff-tuel-play-buffalo-bills-qb Uh....great. Thanks for the pep talk, Coach.
djp14150 Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 I live in Washington stste......he was injured and basically played only 1 game in one season, then in his final season a new coach comes on with a different system and he loses his best receiver due to a dispute with the coach. Winning and losing takes alot more than just a QB
Gray Beard Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 How does a guy with that kind of history even get invited into camp for a tryout? I guess some scout somewhere must have noticed something.
bonechiller Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Wow This kid does not have a good history, where did they find him. Seems like nobody has much good to say about past. But I'll tell you what I have liked what I've seen, and so too must the coaches. It sure would be nice to get a little lucky for once and find a little diamond in the rough!
bowery4 Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) Leech is a tool, this is but another example. Actually, now I read it he didn't say anything bad really. I take it back. Edited August 28, 2013 by bowery4
DC Tom Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "I know he's a good general, but is he lucky?" - Napoleon
Best Player Available Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 'He's never really won any games," Leach said in an interview with SiriusXM NFL Radio. "His entire college career and maybe his high school career as well, he's never really gotten into a rhythm, between injuries and just being moved around a bit, with new coaches."' http://espn.go.com/n...uffalo-bills-qb Uh....great. Thanks for the pep talk, Coach. How inspiring is that BS? Especially coming form a leech?
timtebow15 Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 This is the stuff legends are made of. Can you imagine him starting the first game and betting Brady? It would be like Francis Ouimet winning the US Open!
Prickly Pete Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 He has already played better than Losman, Edwards, Fitz, Brohm, et al, in the preseason setting. That might not count for much, but it is the only opportunity he has had. The other guys couldn't even look good in preseason. I don't want want to get ahead of things, but he can throw the ball really well, and it's possible that he never had the right situation to succeed college.
Buftex Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 He has already played better than Losman, Edwards, Fitz, Brohm, et al, in the preseason setting. That might not count for much, but it is the only opportunity he has had. The other guys couldn't even look good in preseason. I don't want want to get ahead of things, but he can throw the ball really well, and it's possible that he never had the right situation to succeed college. I like Tuel too, but people tend to forget, Trent Edwards was a pre-season phenom his rookie season. Not trying to rationalize anything (maybe a little) but as I recall, that is why so many thought Trent had "it" when he came in for his first regular season appearance for JP, and led them right down the field, for a field goal, as I recall. He played just well enough, for a few more weeks to think that his pre-season performaces were going to start to translate in the "real" games...it just didn't work out that way, for whatever reason.
Prickly Pete Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 I like Tuel too, but people tend to forget, Trent Edwards was a pre-season phenom his rookie season. Not trying to rationalize anything (maybe a little) but as I recall, that is why so many thought Trent had "it" when he came in for his first regular season appearance for JP, and led them right down the field, for a field goal, as I recall. He played just well enough, for a few more weeks to think that his pre-season performaces were going to start to translate in the "real" games...it just didn't work out that way, for whatever reason. Okay. I am curious to see TE's stats for that preseason, or even better, the actual footage. Let's just beat this into the ground.
Just in Atlanta Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Put another way, our quarterback never won any f'ing games. This is about the worst quote I've ever seen intended to be a good quote.
GaryPinC Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Considering all Leach's other quarterbacks (add Graham Harrel to the list) have failed despite a lot of hype from Leach himself, maybe this Tuel is the real deal.
Best Player Available Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 He has already played better than Losman, Edwards, Fitz, Brohm, et al, in the preseason setting. That might not count for much, but it is the only opportunity he has had. The other guys couldn't even look good in preseason. I don't want want to get ahead of things, but he can throw the ball really well, and it's possible that he never had the right situation to succeed college. Come on. Tuel against scrubs in the second half went 7 straight series without a single first down. Everyone likes a good story but he has by no means beat all the players you mention. He flat out sucked against the skins.
GG Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 How inspiring is that BS? Especially coming form a leech? Maybe he never got a chance to test him in the woodshed?
ko12010 Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 This is the stuff legends are made of. Can you imagine him starting the first game and betting Brady? It would be like Francis Ouimet winning the US Open! I get where you're coming from, but this would stile pale in comparison to Quimet winning the US Open, by a considerable amount, imo. Come on. Tuel against scrubs in the second half went 7 straight series without a single first down. Everyone likes a good story but he has by no means beat all the players you mention. He flat out sucked against the skins. Don't forget that Marrone and Hackett obviously limited him because Kolb and EJ weren't options to replace him if anything were to happen. That had to have factored into that performance quite a bit. And the Skins knew that, too. I still don't think the Redskins game as a whole is an accurate gauge of this team. Even though he'll be back in October, the Gilmore injury is still the most frustrating for me.
Jerry Christ Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 I agree ^ I don't think people realize that Kolb was suppose to play a half against the skins...therefore it hindered Tuel and our gameplay.
BuffaloWings Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) I like Tuel too, but people tend to forget, Trent Edwards was a pre-season phenom his rookie season. Not trying to rationalize anything (maybe a little) but as I recall, that is why so many thought Trent had "it" when he came in for his first regular season appearance for JP, and led them right down the field, for a field goal, as I recall. He played just well enough, for a few more weeks to think that his pre-season performaces were going to start to translate in the "real" games...it just didn't work out that way, for whatever reason. But Trent even showed the "it" factor in the regular season games. He looked solid replacing JP in 2007 until he was injured, but won the starting job in 2008 and went 5-1 (including two game-winning 4th quarter drives) before the concussion really took effect. He lost his confidence and never really got it back. Let's see what Tuel has. The comments from Leach are curious, but I'm not sure I want to trust anything he says. Some QBs in college are just OK, but thrive in the NFL. We're still 10-11 days away from opening day and there's still talk that EJ might be ready. Exercise patience before we jump off the ledge. Edited August 28, 2013 by BuffaloWings
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Could have given him more of a ringing endorsement. We're all "curious."
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