NewEra Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 I agree with Gilmore being the most indispensable player on our D (as the roster currently stands), but I think if Pettine dials back the blitzes, it may just exacerbate the problem. It might. The skins killed us on some blitzes the other day.
LancasterSteve Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 Why the Whaley didn't sign him regardless of whether Gilmore gets injured or not is beyond me. Our DB's suck. Only an experienced GM would think to do what you suggest...We don't have one of those yet
LancasterSteve Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 Can we just forfeit the 4th preseason game. we literally can't afford to lose anyone else. This is on the coaches, esp the rookie HC. Inexperience evaluating the overall talent as a Head Coach and playing previous starters for extended snaps of the ball because the new staff is not familiar with the talent of the team they inherited. Gillmore should have had one series....tops and then benched for the rest of the game. The sum of all the parts of the Bills Organization, is green, green, green; from CEO Russ Bradon to GM Doug Whaley to Head Coach Doug Marrone. The question going forward is, will all these components mature and blend in to make this a competent football organization
ganesh Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 Can we just forfeit the 4th preseason game. we literally can't afford to lose anyone else. They could by just by Kneeling down. Anyways, even without kneeling they got ZERO first downs in 7 drives last Saturday!
....lybob Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 I honestly think it's more likely to see Duke Williams get time at CB than Aaron...If Aaron is moved now you're screwing up 2 positions...I'm sure AW be an emergency CB though...But I'm kind of hoping that's as close to CB he gets... this
MDH Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 This is on the coaches, esp the rookie HC. Inexperience evaluating the overall talent as a Head Coach and playing previous starters for extended snaps of the ball because the new staff is not familiar with the talent of the team they inherited. Gillmore should have had one series....tops and then benched for the rest of the game. The sum of all the parts of the Bills Organization, is green, green, green; from CEO Russ Bradon to GM Doug Whaley to Head Coach Doug Marrone. The question going forward is, will all these components mature and blend in to make this a competent football organization This is just wrong. They are implementing a new D scheme and you can't go into the season with your starters only having played a few series together in the new scheme. NO coach would do that. I know fans want someone to blame but the bottom line is that football is a violent game and players get hurt.
ganesh Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 This is just wrong. They are implementing a new D scheme and you can't go into the season with your starters only having played a few series together in the new scheme. NO coach would do that. I know fans want someone to blame but the bottom line is that football is a violent game and players get hurt. Completely agree...Every Brady is playing in the preseason and almost got injured. That did not stop BB from starting him in week 3.
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 Well, NE is starting a bunch of young, no-name WRs and TEs this year (outside of Amendola) so that may help, although I think Vereen will get thrown to quite a bit and they will try to run the heck out of the ball against the Bills first.
zevo Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 So if it is 6 weeks....so we can maybe expect him back by game 5.... Not terrible....
YoloinOhio Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 So if it is 6 weeks....so we can maybe expect him back by game 5.... Not terrible.... That is what Marrone indicated by not putting him on ST IR. He wanted to make sure he could get on the field ASAP. Would not be surprised if he misses 4 games and is back early Oct.
Bangarang Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) My guess: 8 weeks is probably if Gilmore has a setback. I think he'll be back within 4-6 weeks. Two of those weeks are preseason still as I think the surgery has already been done. So, Gilmore is likely out for the first 3-4 games. Sucks but that's where we're at now. Unless EJ plays out of his mind, 2-2 would be a blessing before Gilmore comes back. Edited August 27, 2013 by Bangarang
thebandit27 Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 That is what Marrone indicated by not putting him on ST IR. He wanted to make sure he could get on the field ASAP. Would not be surprised if he misses 4 games and is back early Oct. that'd be nice...really need him for that Cincinnati game vs. AJ Green
Heitz Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) Marvez on how the Gilmore injury hurts us: http://msn.foxsports...patriots-082713 But, "Bad News Bills"? I mean coooooome onnnnnnnn. Also, it's funny when I read an article full of Marrone quotes I actually hear his voice and read it in his syncopation... Edited August 27, 2013 by Heitz
Astrobot Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 Bills number one CB in preseason after Colts and Vikes according to PFF Premium Stats: Crezdon Butler, who was fourth overall in #NFL. Gilmore was tied for 13th. I haven't looked it up since the Redskins game.
Bangarang Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 Bills number one CB in preseason after Colts and Vikes according to PFF Premium Stats: Crezdon Butler, who was fourth overall in #NFL. Gilmore was tied for 13th. I haven't looked it up since the Redskins game. Sample size
3rdand12 Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) We shoulda shot Billy Buffalo from a moving train when we had the chance. we did. thats the problem .cursed ? oh hell yes. But Doug is ready for the adversity (demons ). This has really gotta put a damper on Pettine. But all the better for him to prove Ryan was not running the show or.. Mike can stand on his own and succeed . Damnable good test of character for him. looking forward to the Pats more than ever actually. high drama for me. Tuel and no Gilmore. gosh bless the Bills fan ps Nathaniel too ! Edited August 27, 2013 by 3rdand12
DanInUticaTampa Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 we did. thats the problem . cursed ? oh hell yes. But Doug is ready for the adversity (demons ). This has really gotta put a damper on Pettine. But all the better for him to prove Ryan was not running the show or.. It is going to be a tough challenge. He will really have to gameplan. He won't be able to blitz as much as he would like, that's for sure. If they can improve a lot on run defense and limit the run, defense has a chance
3rdand12 Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 It is going to be a tough challenge. He will really have to gameplan. He won't be able to blitz as much as he would like, that's for sure. If they can improve a lot on run defense and limit the run, defense has a chance I was messing around a bit of course Dan . I do think strongly D needs to show up in the front seven. I thinks a lot of his preseasons blitzing was more for experience and experimental . Some teams go Vanilla and i think Coach P went a quite a bit the other way. I expect him to dial that stuff back for the real season. But show blitz quite often. The run defense has been the achilles heal over the last few years. It showed itself again against that big ole Washing Town . We better get better and that out sorted soon. So i do agree with you Dan, defense CAN keep us in it against Pats and we might be dependant upon that possibilty. let Tuel or EJ play turnover free as they both have and let the D rule the day by playing strong up front Go Bills
GG Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Kurt Schulz maybe? Matt Darby? I do remember somebody back there wreaking havoc against our own guys. GO BILLS!!! Shulzy was always good for a friendly stinger per game, but now after a cup of coffee, I think it was Coy Wire.
eball Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Shulzy was always good for a friendly stinger per game, but now after a cup of coffee, I think it was Coy Wire. But he can jump out of a pool!
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