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I actually heard on the radio this morning someone explaining how attacking Syria would be an example of the doctrine of "proactive self-defense" COMPLETELY different from the Bush Doctrine of "preemptive war." :wallbash:

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I actually heard on the radio this morning someone explaining how attacking Syria would be an example of the doctrine of "proactive self-defense" COMPLETELY different from the Bush Doctrine of "preemptive war." :wallbash:

99% of sales is presentation and phrasing.

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From the New York Times Op-Ed pages.

 

Bomb Syria, Even if It Is Illegal.

 

 

Gee...........I wonder if there is a Democrat in the White House ?

 

 

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In Hurd's defense, he's just arguing the supremacy of moral authority over legal right, and being entirely consistent with it in reference to Iraq and Kosovo.

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Is there something wrong with us letting a brutal dictatorship and Al Qaeda backed rebels duke it out? Why do we need to be involved? !@#$ them and the camels they rode in on. Both sides would cheer if another 911 happened here.

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So Russia is blocking the way in the UN, the Coalition of the Willing is becoming more like a Coalition of the Maybes, and Congress isn't too keen on military action

 

At least Bush had Congressional support, UN support, and international allies. Maybe they should have given Bush the Nobel prize instead

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At least Bush had Congressional support, UN support, and international allies. Maybe they should have given Bush the Nobel prize instead

 

You sure about that? I know it was a decade ago, but I keep reading that Bush lied and acted unilaterally.

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So Russia is blocking the way in the UN, the Coalition of the Willing is becoming more like a Coalition of the Maybes, and Congress isn't too keen on military action

 

At least Bush had Congressional support, UN support, and international allies. Maybe they should have given Bush the Nobel prize instead

 

You talking about Iraq or Afghanistan? Because Bush didn't have UN support for Iraq.

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So Russia is blocking the way in the UN, the Coalition of the Willing is becoming more like a Coalition of the Maybes, and Congress isn't too keen on military action

 

At least Bush had Congressional support, UN support, and international allies. Maybe they should have given Bush the Nobel prize instead

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/dem-congressman-constitution-requires-congressional-authorization-use-force-against-syria_751350.html

 

"The Constitution requires that, barring an attack on the United States or an imminent threat to the U.S., any decision to use military force can only be made by Congress -- not by the President. The decision to go to war -- and we should be clear, launching a military strike on another country, justified or not, is an act of war -- is reserved by the Constitution to the American people acting through their elected representatives in Congress.

 

Since there is no imminent threat to the United States, there is no legal justification for bypassing the Constitutionally-required Congressional authorization. “Consultation” with Congress is not sufficient. The Constitution requires Congressional authorization."

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The Constitution requires Congressional authorization."

why would this administration suddenly begin to respect the constraints of the US constitution? it's not like it's ever mattered to them before.

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why would this administration suddenly begin to respect the constraints of the US constitution? it's not like it's ever mattered to them before.

I found the quote to be relevant because it comes from Democratic congressman Jerrold Nadler, who is the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution and Civil Justice.

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I found the quote to be relevant because it comes from Democratic congressman Jerrold Nadler, who is the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution and Civil Justice.

oh, I understand and agree with your point. it's just the complete lack of respect from this administration toward constitutional restraint often inspires bursts of sarcasm on my part.

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