26CornerBlitz Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 He' a calculating SOB. Well, I was wrong. Due to the roster exemption being only two weeks, it's clear that the Bills did not make this move due to believing he would not be ready. "In granting the Buffalo Bills' request to have newly re-signed safety Jairus Byrd not count on their roster, the NFL limited the exemption only through the team's final two preseason games." The news that Byrd showed up now simply not to lose game checks kinda pisses me off. I know he has to look out for himself. I get that. But do you not care about the team at all? If it didnt punish the Bills chances of winning, I would let him sit the year. Just playing nickel or spot duty. That'll drastically decrease his chances for a huge contract. How dare he mitigate the risk of injury while maximizing his earning potential for this season. WTH hell is wrong with this guy? After all, football players careers last as long as they want them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 How dare he mitigate the risk of injury while maximizing his earning potential for this season. WTH hell is wrong with this guy? After all, football players careers last as long as they want them to. Bygolly why must you get in the way of me getting mad, with your common sense and practical thinking time and time again! Would you trade Byrd to San Diego for a 2014 2nd and 5th, and a 2016 3rd rounder? http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2013/8/21/4645450/bills-san-diego-chargers-should-trade-for-jairus-byrd Depends how frosty things are behind the scenes. That's getting close, but likely not quite - although it makes little to no sense for San Diego to do so I'm treating it as if they aren't the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 How dare he mitigate the risk of injury while maximizing his earning potential for this season. WTH hell is wrong with this guy? After all, football players careers last as long as they want them to. Stupid jerk comes to work to make money. Plenty of speculation is floating around wrt Byrd: @RapSheet Being asked if Jairus Byrd requested a trade. No. Would he welcome one in the right situation? At this point, I believe he would. I wish font size always had to reflect the most important part of a statement. It would be a positive innovation for those out there who can't tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Stupid jerk comes to work to make money. I wish font size always had to reflect the most important part of a statement. It would be a positive innovation for those out there who can't tell the difference. He won't work. He'll sit on the bench because he won't know the new system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 He won't work. He'll sit on the bench because he won't know the new system. Too stupid to learn, lazy and greedy, plus he has a POS agent. I'd trade this guy for Tarvaris Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Too stupid to learn, lazy and greedy, plus he has a POS agent. I'd trade this guy for Tarvaris Jackson. Why? Skelton not available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Why? Skelton not available? You know, occasionally I worry that someone will take my posts seriously, but I am glad others are in on the joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 You know, occasionally I worry that someone will take my posts seriously... Don't worry, we never takes your posts seriously. Whomever would is not a serious person anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Don't worry, we never takes your posts seriously. Whomever would is not a serious person anyway. This much is true. *hangs head in shame...ful delight* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microscopes Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) How dare he mitigate the risk of injury while maximizing his earning potential for this season. WTH hell is wrong with this guy? After all, football players careers last as long as they want them to. #1) You must have skipped over the part where I wrote "I know he has to look out for himself." #2) There was no maximizing his earning potential after July 15th. He was going to make $6.9 mill no matter what. #3) Careers lasting as long as they want blah blah blah. It's all bullcrap. Listen, the guy will make $6.9 mill this season. You and I, average folk, making $100k per year, it would take us 69 years to make that. He's already made $4.2 mil in his career. Add that onto the $6.9 mil he is GUARANTEED, and he has made $11.1 million in his career. Or what it would take someone 111 years who was earning $100k per year. I feel no sympathy. He could tear his ACL, MCL, PoopCL and everything else and never be able to play again and he would be financially set. So please, spare me the mitigating risk and financial future talk. It's nonsense. It's greed. That being said, it's a free country and he is welcome to do whatever he wants. He is welcome to be greedy. That's his right. It's also my right to be pissed about it. It's also my right to think that he can look out for himself while thinking about his team as well. Bygolly why must you get in the way of me getting mad, with your common sense and practical thinking time and time again! Listen, I get it. You're top dog here. You are macho. You can stop now. Sarcasm, at its core, is a quest for acceptance and ego. Youre separating yourself to make yourself seem superior and not naive. The word "sarcasm" comes from the Greek Sarkazen. Which if I recall correctly, means to rip apart one's flesh. Mainly to show dominance. So I get it. You're dominant. You're top dog. Cool? Edited August 22, 2013 by microscopes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 #1) You must have skipped over the part where I wrote "I know he has to look out for himself." #2) There was no maximizing his earning potential after July 15th. He was going to make $6.9 mill no matter what. #3) Careers lasting as long as they want blah blah blah. It's all bullcrap. Listen, the guy will make $6.9 mill this season. You and I, average folk, making $100k per year, it would take us 69 years to make that. He's already made $4.2 mil in his career. Add that onto the $6.9 mil he is GUARANTEED, and he has made $11.1 million in his career. Or what it would take someone 111 years who was earning $100k per year. I feel no sympathy. He could tear his ACL, MCL, PoopCL and everything else and never be able to play again and he would be financially set. So please, spare me the mitigating risk and financial future talk. It's nonsense. It's greed. That being said, it's a free country and he is welcome to do whatever he wants. He is welcome to be greedy. That's his right. It's also my right to be pissed about it. It's also my right to think that he can look out for himself while thinking about his team as well. Jairus Byrd has a short window of football prowess that will likely be followed by pain that will last the rest of his life. He is not average folk. You can complain about how absurd it is that he gets paid this much, but it's even more absurd that Ralph Wilson has made billions off of this $25,000 initial investment. If he is greedy, the TV networks are greedier and the owners are greedier. The whole damn thing is draped in dollar signs. So at the end of the day the only question is about Byrd's worth commensurate with his performance, and that of others like him in a league that trades the health and well-being of 20-40something men for money and glory. K-9 and plenty of others disagree with Byrd's defenders on football merits. It works plenty well without the character assassinations. I don't feel sympathy for him, but nor is his position normal, nor do we know what the situation is for most of these players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) #1) You must have skipped over the part where I wrote "I know he has to look out for himself." #2) There was no maximizing his earning potential after July 15th. He was going to make $6.9 mill no matter what. #3) Careers lasting as long as they want blah blah blah. It's all bullcrap. Listen, the guy will make $6.9 mill this season. You and I, average folk, making $100k per year, it would take us 69 years to make that. He's already made $4.2 mil in his career. Add that onto the $6.9 mil he is GUARANTEED, and he has made $11.1 million in his career. Or what it would take someone 111 years who was earning $100k per year. I feel no sympathy. He could tear his ACL, MCL, PoopCL and everything else and never be able to play again and he would be financially set. So please, spare me the mitigating risk and financial future talk. It's nonsense. It's greed. That being said, it's a free country and he is welcome to do whatever he wants. He is welcome to be greedy. That's his right. It's also my right to be pissed about it. It's also my right to think that he can look out for himself while thinking about his team as well. You're right man. In a multi-billion dollar enterprise, he should just take whatever he's offered and be grateful. Such a selfish, greedy bastard!! Edited August 22, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microscopes Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I know, right, it's not like it's his job and this is a work dispute where he yet has taken the team's offer to come to work for this season. With none of the kinds of guarantees afforded any of his other more talented teammates or co-workers on other teams, I might add. Everything is guaranteed for the season when he signs the tender. And history has shown that players who sit out are more likely, albeit not guaranteed, to get injured. Therefore if his logic is not mitigate risk, then showing up on time would have been beneficial. Jairus Byrd has a short window of football prowess that will likely be followed by pain that will last the rest of his life. He is not average folk. You can complain about how absurd it is that he gets paid this much, but it's even more absurd that Ralph Wilson has made billions off of this $25,000 initial investment. If he is greedy, the TV networks are greedier and the owners are greedier. The whole damn thing is draped in dollar signs. So at the end of the day the only question is about Byrd's worth commensurate with his performance, and that of others like him in a league that trades the health and well-being of 20-40something men for money and glory. K-9 and plenty of others disagree with Byrd's defenders on football merits. It works plenty well without the character assassinations. I don't feel sympathy for him, but nor is his position normal, nor do we know what the situation is for most of these players. Back up your claim that he will "be followed by pain that will last the rest of his life". As far as I know, he hasn't received any concussions. Although my memory can be foggy at times. And concussions are the main reason for why football players end up in pain later on in life. You're right man. In a multi-billion dollar enterprise, he should just take whatever he's offered and be grateful. Such a selfish, greedy bastard!! That's not what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Everything is guaranteed for the season when he signs the tender. And history has shown that players who sit out are more likely, albeit not guaranteed, to get injured. Therefore if his logic is not mitigate risk, then showing up on time would have been beneficial. Back up your claim that he will "be followed by pain that will last the rest of his life". As far as I know, he hasn't received any concussions. Although my memory can be foggy at times. And concussions are the main reason for why football players end up in pain later on in life. That's not what I said. Are you saying the only pain retired football players go through are concussion related? Have you seen Earl Campbell lately? These guys are the main thing supporting a $20 billion/year enterprise. They deserve every penny they can get because they are worth it. They're not the fry cooks at Burger King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Everything is guaranteed for the season when he signs the tender. And history has shown that players who sit out are more likely, albeit not guaranteed, to get injured. Therefore if his logic is not mitigate risk, then showing up on time would have been beneficial. Back up your claim that he will "be followed by pain that will last the rest of his life". As far as I know, he hasn't received any concussions. Although my memory can be foggy at times. And concussions are the main reason for why football players end up in pain later on in life. That's not what I said. Knee and hip replacements, arthritic conditions, addiction to pain killers and other afflictions are common place because their bodies take so much punishment over the course of a career. These guys pay a serious toll for the glory, adulation, and success. Irrespective of your opinion, they certainly deserve to make as much as they can, while they can without ridicule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Back up your claim that he will "be followed by pain that will last the rest of his life". As far as I know, he hasn't received any concussions. Although my memory can be foggy at times. And concussions are the main reason for why football players end up in pain later on in life. My goodness. Hey, on your way out, look up the word "likely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microscopes Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 This is actually a bit of an interesting mini case study going on here. To some, the athlete making millions of dollars is the unreachable peek that they will never obtain and there is a bit of resentment in that. But to others, specifically those so far responding in this thread, they look deeper. Their disdain is towards the NFL and the Teams who make much more money than the player ever will. So in essense, the athlete is the "little guy" and therefore it is much easier to relate to the athlete, being the "little guy", than it is to relate to the NFL or Team. Very interesting discussion so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 He won't work. He'll sit on the bench because he won't know the new system. yes he will and he will dominate. thats the pisser for Whaley and Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 This is actually a bit of an interesting mini case study going on here. To some, the athlete making millions of dollars is the unreachable peek that they will never obtain and there is a bit of resentment in that. But to others, specifically those so far responding in this thread, they look deeper. Their disdain is towards the NFL and the Teams who make much more money than the player ever will. So in essense, the athlete is the "little guy" and therefore it is much easier to relate to the athlete, being the "little guy", than it is to relate to the NFL or Team. Here, you are on to something. I don't resent Byrd or any athlete that has made it where he has. We can perhaps resent the value system that leads to him making money that is unattainable for the rest of us, but here we are posting on a football message board in high anticipation of the new season. I have little regard for the owners at this point. I respect what the elder statesmen, including Ralph, did to grow and support the league in its early years, but right now it is an unstoppable money making machine and the owners could hardly be characterized as doing much beyond letting auto-pilot steer this thing into the high seas of profit. You would have to f--- up hard to lose money owning an NFL franchise. The players are the ones who really invest themselves in this game, and they're the ones I'd like to see do well and better their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microscopes Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Are you saying the only pain retired football players go through are concussion related? Have you seen Earl Campbell lately? These guys are the main thing supporting a $20 billion/year enterprise. They deserve every penny they can get because they are worth it. They're not the fry cooks at Burger King. I ask that everyone who responds to a post of mine, please read what I am writing before responding. It's a small request but it would be very beneficial in the long run. I said "concussions are the main reason". Meaning, most of the studies I have seen related to lasting pain after careers is due to chronic traumatic encephalopathy, which is a result of repeated concussions. It is not the only reason. But it is more often than not. The assertion that every player lives with pain the rest of their life seems baseless as far as I can tell. The reason we know of Earl Campbell's story is because it is rare, and not the "norm". Unfortunately for Earl, he got addicted to painkillers and was mixing them with alcohol and that can really mess with a person. yes he will and he will dominate. thats the pisser for Whaley and Co. I believe if that happens Whaley will simply franchise him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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