Just Jack Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 From the AP... http://pro32.ap.org/article/nfl-wont-let-mathis-wear-special-face-mask ANDERSON, Ind. (AP) -- The NFL won't allow Colts defensive end Robert Mathis to use his face mask on game days. League spokesman Brian McCarthy wrote in an email to The Associated Press that the NFL determined it was a prohibited non-standard face mask. At training camp, Mathis has been wearing cagey-looking white face mask that covers up just about everything except his eyes. Several players around the league including Arizona's Darnell Dockett and the Giants' Justin Tuck have been using similar face masks, and those also will be disallowed. The only exception to wearing a customized face mask, McCarthy said, would be for a medical reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf Sandwich Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) That's odd b.c I remember Tuck saying it helps stop getting hands in your face, eyes, and mouth. Guess looks to scary for the NFL... Will they be a Halloween special? Edited August 10, 2013 by Meatloaf Sandwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) I Agree. This is getting ridiculous with these personalized facemasks. It all really started with Tomlinson. It's a joke. The league finds the equipment they use to be safe and secure, there's no reason why anyone should be allowed to wear a special face mask unless its medically needed like when a player had a broken nose or jaw, etc. They do look cool though. Edited August 10, 2013 by mrags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I Agree. This is getting ridiculous with these personalized facemasks. It all really started with Tomlinson. It's a joke. The league finds the equipment they use to be safe and secure, there's no reason why anyone should be allowed to wear a special face mask unless its medically needed like when a player had a broken nose or jaw, etc. They do look cool though. Are you referring to Tomlinson eye shield or whatever it was? I believe he actually had a medical reason to wear it or at least got a Dr to say he did I don't get what the problem is unless its a licensing issue from the helmet maker since these are custom face masks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I Agree. This is getting ridiculous with these personalized facemasks. It all really started with Tomlinson. It's a joke. The league finds the equipment they use to be safe and secure, there's no reason why anyone should be allowed to wear a special face mask unless its medically needed like when a player had a broken nose or jaw, etc. They do look cool though. Just to play devil's advocate, if a new facemask design conforms with NFL safety standards, why shouldn't they be able to be used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 They are putting a stop to it before it gets out of hand. I don't blame them. It would only have been a matter of time before 1 person took the custom face mask thing too far and created an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 They are putting a stop to it before it gets out of hand. I don't blame them. It would only have been a matter of time before 1 person took the custom face mask thing too far and created an issue. What kind of issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 They are putting a stop to it before it gets out of hand. I don't blame them. It would only have been a matter of time before 1 person took the custom face mask thing too far and created an issue. What issue would be created with a custom facemask? As SJBF said, as long as the facemask conformed to size/color/safety rules, whats the harm in allowing them? Smack of Goodell just continuing with his banning any and everything that brings any individuality to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 What issue would be created with a custom facemask? As SJBF said, as long as the facemask conformed to size/color/safety rules, whats the harm in allowing them? Smack of Goodell just continuing with his banning any and everything that brings any individuality to the game. They doesn't wants da playa's to looks "robotic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Yeah I suspect this is the Ray Bentley/Mitch Frerotte face paint issue all over again. I was against the NFL on that one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 What kind of issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Wadda sheuse when sheneeds atissue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Well it makes sense. The fans aren't allowed a regular bag into the games so why not show they are just as harsh on the players by taking away their face masks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 What kind of issue? I can't think of one right now but these players have enough time and money on their hands to customize it to something extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Not that there's anything wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 Just to play devil's advocate, if a new facemask design conforms with NFL safety standards, why shouldn't they be able to be used? It doesn't though, the NFL wants only 4 horizontal bars and 3 vertical bars. The ones the players have been trying have a lot more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 It doesn't though, the NFL wants only 4 horizontal bars and 3 vertical bars. The ones the players have been trying have a lot more than that. Not that NFL rules are in the democratic and public domain because they aren't. It's not a big deal to me but it is interesting. As the starting point of a discussion, what actually are the rules and what is the rationale behind the rules? I could see for instance if the NFL stated that "facemasks shall not exceed _______ ounces because to do so would create more force in collisions" then everyone could see the reasoning and common sense behind the rules. However the NFL without comment has ruled against certain facemasks and in favor of others without revealing the underlying logic and rationale. It's exactly because of this that the NFLs critics can accuse the league of being the "No Fun League" and being fascistic against individual expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I could see for instance if the NFL stated that "facemasks shall not exceed _______ ounces because to do so would create more force in collisions" then everyone could see the reasoning and common sense behind the rules. Yeah, because a few more ounces on guys weighing well over 200 pounds is the thing that will put it over the top. This is just another "we're in charge and you're not" thing from people who need to be in complete control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 God forbid the face masks get "out of hand." Who knows what will happen then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) Just to play devil's advocate, if a new facemask design conforms with NFL safety standards, why shouldn't they be able to be used? Wasn't there some strange facemasks in the 70s, checking google now. Edit; I guess it is within the rules but I remember this one http://www.helmethut.com/Lions/Karrass.html ah here is what I was looking for John Williams of the Rams http://www.pigskinbuzz.com/the-five-weirdest-helmets-ever-worn-in-the-nfl-1547 BTW interesting article and not sure why the no fun leauge would out law innovation, experiments have helped improve the safety of the game. Plus they look cool, I am prety much on the side of this that says Rodger Goodfornutin is a nazi dictator. Edited August 11, 2013 by bowery4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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