Malazan Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 wow, not very nice. you don't think some sort of empirical evidence would be appropriate before stating arbitrarily how bad EJ is? Although, I have to admit, it would br depressing if Geno was great and EJ sucked (and that would be Bills kind of luck). I think we can wait at least a little while before beign so arbitrarily pessimistic. John Cocktosten is one of the well known trolls on the board. You should put him on ignore to avoid getting suckered again.
Koufax Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Vegas still has us only winning 3 games next year. Therefore, should we tank it to get clowney? They say he's the next Bruce smith. Seriously, I don't want to tank the season but clowney is going to be awesome this year and in the nfl in years to come Play to win each and every game. Never think the draft crap shoot is worth not trying to be a one win better football team. Even when it is week 17 and an Andrew Luck is there. Recent drafts: 2007: Russell #1, Adrian Peterson #7, Patrick Willis #10 2008: Jake Long #1, Matt Ryan #3, Chris Johnson #24 2009: Stafford #1, Orakpo #13, Cushing #15 2010: Bradford #1, Spiller #8 2011: Newton #1, Watt #11 2012: Who judges a draft after one year? But that Luck guy seems pretty good. Picking #1 can be nice, but it is never worth trying to lose for, and there are always great players available later, especially now that we won't be picking a first round QB (which is where there tends to be a difference even if hit or miss). I hope we are picking #32, but if we hit week 15 with something in the 5-15 range, I will still be rooting for us to win out the final games even as it "hurts" our draft position.
chris heff Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Two more words: asinine thread Agree, you know what would be great if all 32 teams tried to tank for Clowney. Imagine how great the season would be if everybody just tried to throw every game.
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Let's tank for Manziel! Do you see how much press he gets now? He's gonna be awesome! Slam dunk, baby! PTR Nah man. There's this punter in high school. Everybody says he's the next Brian Moorman. Tank the next 4 seasons or so, and he's ours!
Rocky Landing Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 I'm trying to imagine the conversations involved in trying to convince Doug Marrone to throw his first season as an NFL head coach. Come to think of it, such a scheme would probably violate federal anti-trust laws. That being said, if the front office were really interested in throwing the season (without the fear of committing a felony), they could just fire Marrone and bring back Dick Jauron. VOILA! Season tanked!
papazoid Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Vegas still has us only winning 3 games next year. Therefore, should we tank it to get clowney? They say he's the next Bruce smith. Seriously, I don't want to tank the season but clowney is going to be awesome this year and in the nfl in years to come #1- vegas has us as the favorite for the betting line in 3 of 16 games. #2- vegas has the bills at 6.5 wins total for the over/under bet. #3- you will NEVER get coaches and/or players willing to "tank" the season. #4- you could get a general manager and owner to try and tank. like INDY did by replacing peyton manning with some loser named Painter, instead of going out and getting a better QB.
Chef Jim Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Have I mentioned recently why I don't post here often?
bobblehead Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Not ready to clown it for clowney, besides, I heard "best prospect in years" talk about Dareus, too. And I like Dareus.
NoSaint Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Not ready to clown it for clowney, besides, I heard "best prospect in years" talk about Dareus, too. And I like Dareus. i dont recall "best nfl defensive prospect in years" talk for dareus.... there was a little bit of "one of the best DTs besides suh" but thats a bit less ringing an endorsement
bobblehead Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 I heard it, but I think it was some douche like Stephen A Smith, who then probably ripped the Bills for reaching
zazie Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Play to win each and every game. Never think the draft crap shoot is worth not trying to be a one win better football team. Even when it is week 17 and an Andrew Luck is there. Recent drafts: 2007: Russell #1, Adrian Peterson #7, Patrick Willis #10 2008: Jake Long #1, Matt Ryan #3, Chris Johnson #24 2009: Stafford #1, Orakpo #13, Cushing #15 2010: Bradford #1, Spiller #8 2011: Newton #1, Watt #11 2012: Who judges a draft after one year? But that Luck guy seems pretty good. Picking #1 can be nice, but it is never worth trying to lose for, and there are always great players available later, especially now that we won't be picking a first round QB (which is where there tends to be a difference even if hit or miss). I hope we are picking #32, but if we hit week 15 with something in the 5-15 range, I will still be rooting for us to win out the final games even as it "hurts" our draft position. have to rub it in huh?
brucethomas34 Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Even if the ball doesn't bounce our way I have a hard time seeing us lose more than 5 games...
RyanC883 Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 I would entertain a debate over whether we should trade our 1, 2, and 3rd to get Clowney, but no way we should tank this season. We are going 10-6 at least. And how do I bet on the over in Vegas?!
West End Stench Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 No. I'm sick of watching a sinking ship over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. I'm sick of November rolling around and already looking forward to the draft. Finally, I'm sick of people who think having the first pick of the draft is a cure-all for any franchise. Ask the Browns how that worked for them in '99 and 2000. Ask the Bengals, Texans, Niners, Raiders, Dolphins how that all worked out for them. I'm ready to have a team show some improvement this year, and get over the damn hump next year with the core group we have now, and whatever cards we are dealt in the 2014 draft. It's not a matter of having higher draft picks, it's a matter of drafting better with the picks you're given.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 When does it stop? Why not tank every year and you could litter your team with #1 overall picks? Where else could one find the suggestion that being a loser is the best way to become a winner.... Weak, lame pathetic.
major Posted August 25, 2013 Author Posted August 25, 2013 If we play in regular season like we did today, we may get clowney after all
Pete Posted August 25, 2013 Posted August 25, 2013 Bills luck- we go 2-14, but Jacksonville goes 1-15
kasper13 Posted August 25, 2013 Posted August 25, 2013 Not saying anything one way or the other. It falls like it falls. Go to YouTube and watch Clowney's senior season high school highlights. Talk about dominant. Talk about unfair. Like an All Pro NFL player going back and playing high school ball. Never saw anything like it Would have broke every recruiting rule in existence to sign him up.
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