Meatloaf Sandwich Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Seriously though, WTF is wrong with the people that want to run Mario out of town? You all have deep seeded personal issue you need to resolve. It is OK if people make money and are well payed, you don't have to hate them. If you look most of the Mario hate threads are from MMDT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 If you look most of the Mario hate threads are from MMDT. How is this a hate thread, the Bills have the option to retain or trade him if he doesn't perform. Excuses don't help our team on the field & when you have 17% of your cap tied up in one guy that's not playing up to par, you have to make assessments. Plantar F chest issues, wrist issue show a pattern of injury so the Bills can move on if he cannot perform. Is this hate or practicality ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 If you look most of the Mario hate threads are from MMDT. as is a good percentage of the anger directed towards any player with regards to getting paid. How is this a hate thread, the Bills have the option to retain or trade him if he doesn't perform. Excuses don't help our team on the field & when you have 17% of your cap tied up in one guy that's not playing up to par, you have to make assessments. Plantar F chest issues, wrist issue show a pattern of injury so the Bills can move on if he cannot perform. Is this hate or practicality ? and the cap hit would be only 12m based on his signing bonus amortization, and thats other guaranteed dollars ignored. i wouldnt call that a particularly practical cut. if hes going to count 8 figures against the cap, id rather it be in uniform even if he isnt up to some fans expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 and the cap hit would be only 12m based on his signing bonus amortization, and thats other guaranteed dollars ignored. i wouldnt call that a particularly practical cut. if hes going to count 8 figures against the cap, id rather it be in uniform even if he isnt up to some fans expectations. I'd rather him as well, it's just that if he can't perform or has excuses on why he can't perform than that hurts the team's chances of success now doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 NegativeNancyDownTown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Where do you get the idea he is our best pass rusher. I think we will see he is not the sac leader this year and he will use the excuse he is double teamed etc. Bruce was doubled every play..and he was the leader each year...he was a leader. You wanna bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 He played respectable/above average last year and was obviously hurt. Scheme was terrible. Still drew attention from offenses. He's already proven he can be a very productive/sometimes great player in his career. IF he stays healthy, he's way better than most DE's in the league. If healthy AND motivated....he's great. Worth all the money? Who cares. We have lots of cap space and we aren't overflowing with young talent to take his place. I can't see him getting cut after this year. In fact, I'd be shocked. The guy is talented. Let's not run him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle flap Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 How is this a hate thread, the Bills have the option to retain or trade him if he doesn't perform. Excuses don't help our team on the field & when you have 17% of your cap tied up in one guy that's not playing up to par, you have to make assessments. Plantar F chest issues, wrist issue show a pattern of injury so the Bills can move on if he cannot perform. Is this hate or practicality ? Par = average. I think everyone would agree that despite being injured for part of the year, Mario was FAR superior to the average DE. Oh, you mean par for Mario? He had 10.5 sacks, his career average is 9.7. He had 46 tackles, his career average is 41. And the list goes on. 17% of your cap for your best veteran player is pretty standard. Just about every team has a DE and/or QB making around that much (each) if they're evenly remotely as good as Mario is compared to his peers at their respective position. Give it a rest, man. It's fine to be jealous of Mario's money but find something to actually criticize. Every player has "low lights," but if you pay attention, Mario is making a positive difference on nearly every play. You might think he sucks, but I guarantee opposing coaches and players don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Par = average. I think everyone would agree that despite being injured for part of the year, Mario was FAR superior to the average DE. Oh, you mean par for Mario? He had 10.5 sacks, his career average is 9.7. He had 46 tackles, his career average is 41. And the list goes on. 17% of your cap for your best veteran player is pretty standard. Just about every team has a DE and/or QB making around that much (each) if they're evenly remotely as good as Mario is compared to his peers at their respective position. Give it a rest, man. It's fine to be jealous of Mario's money but find something to actually criticize. Every player has "low lights," but if you pay attention, Mario is making a positive difference on nearly every play. You might think he sucks, but I guarantee opposing coaches and players don't. I don't understand the obsession with sacks, MW has never been a 20 sack/season guy. If he is able to get to 10-15 every year of his contract while also playing elite run defense then I personally will consider the contract money well spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagentqb Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 lots of love for mario on this board - not that there's anything wrong with that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 A few thoughts..... 1. While Mario may not play out his entire contract here in Buffalo, I do not see him going anywhere anytime soon. 2. How is it that so many people are looking negatively on a player who only 2 years ago set a record thread in which posters were going nuts over the rumor and eventual signing. 3. Maybe this is just me, but Mario has proven himself beyond a doubt that he is a difference maker and can play at the highest level. Its two days into training camp. I am not worried at all that he hasnt participated. Mario was concerned enough to voice his possible injury to the Bills staff where as last season he did not until during the season. I view this as Mario taking the proper measures to make sure he is 100% ready to go for week 1. I can understand if we are in mid to late August and he still hasnt participated in camp but until then I am not worrying at all. CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 These Mario threads are absolutely insane. Ralph is cheap. But when he spends money on the too defensive FA, "fans" want to cut him after he only got double digits sacks. Some of you are completely irrational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Is this hate or practicality ? Neither, it's a poster who cannot even troll successfully, and appears to know nothing about football. Aside from broad generalizations that are always wrong.And, is borderline crusading on the Byrd/Parker topic, by not even have the capability to successfully argue his trolling "points". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) Neither, it's a poster who cannot even troll successfully, and appears to know nothing about football. Aside from broad generalizations that are always wrong. And, is borderline crusading on the Byrd/Parker topic, by not even have the capability to successfully argue his trolling "points". I'm not trolling, Mario is on a short & expense leash. Believe me if he doesn't perform, he's a goner. Edited July 30, 2013 by mitchmurraydowntown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryls61 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Lets see what he does this season. His 10.5 sacks last year weren't terrible. By comparison, Peppers had 11.5. He definitely seems like a strange guy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I'm not trolling, Mario is on a short & expense leash. Believe me if he doesn't perform, he's a goner. No one being rational questions his performance in 2012. Every player in the NFL is on a short & expensive leash and can be cut at any moment if they don't perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Not a real poison pill type of bonus like we've seen in previous contracts. Starting next year his annual salary is like 10-12 mil per. He's still 28 which means his body can heal. He has a lot of good years left in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 Not a real poison pill type of bonus like we've seen in previous contracts. Starting next year his annual salary is like 10-12 mil per. He's still 28 which means his body can heal. He has a lot of good years left in him. How old was Merriman before he started breaking down ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 How old was Merriman before he started breaking down ? That is an Apples to Oranges comparison. Juice does not do a body good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 How old was Merriman before he started breaking down ? not that you are trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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