Beerball Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Looks like a long shot at best, strong Bills connection in article's opening paragraphs. Talk about blackouts etc. Please leave politics aside. http://www.dailyfreeman.com/articles/2013/07/06/sports/6aadce51-ee29-4eb5-83c3-eaf132541cda.txt?viewmode=fullstory
Garion Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Interesting article. I can certainly say over the years I have bought tickets when there was a threatened blackout.
The Wiz Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 I get a kick out of the "it's not fair to people who don't subscribe to Directv". The guy is advocating for blackouts but doesn't want out of market advertising being shown in a different market Kinda like how I watch Sonic/Hardee's commercials in Rochester but there isn't one in NY State (at least as far as I know).
Chandler#81 Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 I appreciate the effort and perceived passion behind the Bill. But no one or no 'thing' (USFL) has successfully chopped into the NFL tv monopoly. Yes, the USFL 'won' its case. Award? $1. Upside? Kent Hull, Trumain Johnson, Scott Norwood and some QB from Texas/NJ became Bills within 2 weeks..
PromoTheRobot Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 At the very least the blackout zone needs to be reduced from 75 miles. That figure is based on analog TV coverage. Digital coverage is half that. The blackout zone should be no more than 40 miles. PTR
yall Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 I get a kick out of the "it's not fair to people who don't subscribe to Directv". The guy is advocating for blackouts but doesn't want out of market advertising being shown in a different market Kinda like how I watch Sonic/Hardee's commercials in Rochester but there isn't one in NY State (at least as far as I know). I think there is a Hardee's on the Thruway near Rochester. So did I misread that or was the argument that if you didn't have the blackout, when you blacked out a local market blah blah blah directTV something? Wouldn't the local market also not be blacked out? It made no sense. Maybe it was poorly written or the drinking over the 4 day holiday weekend made me functionally illiterate.
Nanker Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Requiring a total sell out of tickets three days in advance has always seemed a bit harsh - especially when you consider Rich stadium had a capacity of 80,000+ (largest crowd was 80,368 10/4/92 Bills Vs Miami), and a lot of large market teams had stadiums well below that. Sure, The Ralph now only seats 73,000, yet here's a list of current stadiums with lower seating capacity: University of Phoenix Stadium 63,400 Soldier Field, Chicago 61,500 Reliant Stadium, Houston 71,054 Raymond James Stadium, Tampa 65,908 Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego 70,561 Paul Brown Stadium, Cincinnati 65,535 Oakland Co. Coliseum 53,200 Mall of America Field, Minneapolis 64,121 M&T Bank Stadium, Baltimore 71,008 Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis 62,421 LP Field, Nashville 69,143 Lincoln Financial Field, Philly 68,532 Heinz Field, Pittsburgh 65,050 Gillette Stadium, Foxborough 68,756 Georgia Dome, Atlanta 71,228 Ford Field, Detroit 65,000 EverBank Field, Jacksonville 67,246 Edward Jones Dome, St Louis 66,965 Century Link Field, Seattle 67,000 Candlestick Park, San Francisco 69,732 Plus new stadiums for San Fran (68,500); Minnesota (65,000); Atlanta (65,000) will all be smaller than The Ralph if and when they're built. I think the NFL should lift the blackout for all stadiums when they sell the same number of tickets equal to that of the team playing each week with the SMALLEST STADIUM's capacity. That would be parity. So, for example if Oakland is playing then no team would have a blackout if they sold 53,200 tickets. If Oakland isn't playing and Chicago is - then the number grows to 61,500 tickets. Why the hell should Buffalo get blacked out after selling 71,500 tickets and a city like Chicago gets free tv with 10,000 fewer tickets sold?
Tsaikotic Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 I get a kick out of the "it's not fair to people who don't subscribe to Directv". The guy is advocating for blackouts but doesn't want out of market advertising being shown in a different market Kinda like how I watch Sonic/Hardee's commercials in Rochester but there isn't one in NY State (at least as far as I know). upper front street in Binghamton NY is closest Sonic to Rochester
14127 Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Do as they please. I have been watching every [and I mean every] Bills game on the internet for 5+ years now.
Mr. WEO Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Clearly, cheap tickets and the threat of blackouts haven't resulted in consistent sellouts at the Ralph. Even so, they should do away with the blackout rule.
Chandler#81 Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 It's this kind of comment the OP asked not to address and will find the thread moved if it continues.
nucci Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Do as they please. I have been watching every [and I mean every] Bills game on the internet for 5+ years now. Well, as long as you're happy there's nothing more to talk about. and do you mean every?
Just Jack Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Kinda like how I watch Sonic/Hardee's commercials in Rochester but there isn't one in NY State (at least as far as I know). upper front street in Binghamton NY is closest Sonic to Rochester 1103 upper front street Chenango, NY 13905 I think there is a Hardee's on the Thruway near Rochester. I couldn't find one, but there are two Checkers, aren't they owned by the same company? http://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/travelplazas/tp-pembroke.html http://www.thruway.ny.gov/travelers/travelplazas/tp-seneca.html
White Linen Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 I think the NFL should lift the blackout for all stadiums when they sell the same number of tickets equal to that of the team playing each week with the SMALLEST STADIUM's capacity. That would be parity. So, for example if Oakland is playing then no team would have a blackout if they sold 53,200 tickets. If Oakland isn't playing and Chicago is - then the number grows to 61,500 tickets. Why the hell should Buffalo get blacked out after selling 71,500 tickets and a city like Chicago gets free tv with 10,000 fewer tickets sold? Well that wouldn't be parity it would only help the teams with bigger stadiums.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 1103 upper front street Chenango, NY 13905 I couldn't find one, but there are two Checkers, aren't they owned by the same company? http://www.thruway.n...p-pembroke.html http://www.thruway.n.../tp-seneca.html I dunno but I believe Hardee's and Carl's Junior are the same company and sell virtually the same product (with different names).
first_and_ten Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 I think, whether McCain is politically motivated or not, he makes a very good point. The tax payers of western new york give the Bills millions of dollars each year. Why shouldn't they now be able to watch the games? It's amazing to me the support this team has gotten based on the horrible product they have put on the field for so long.
hondo in seattle Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Do as they please. I have been watching every [and I mean every] Bills game on the internet for 5+ years now. Really? How? I've watched many on the internet (primarily on JustinTV) but some Sundays I couldn't find a rebroadcast of the game.
CodeMonkey Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) Kinda like how I watch Sonic/Hardee's commercials in Rochester but there isn't one in NY State (at least as far as I know). Not yet in Roch, but coming. "Sonic, based in Oklahoma City, announced Monday it had signed an agreement with a local franchise group headed by Fran DeSimone to open five local Sonics over the next four years. DeSimone has had local experience with Panera Bread, Burger King and Taco Bell franchises." http://www.democrata...?nclick_check=1 Do as they please. I have been watching every [and I mean every] Bills game on the internet for 5+ years now. I've watched some on the internet as well. I prefer watching at home instead of at the Ralph because I can watch with my family and because of HD broadcasts. Those internet feeds are painful to watch due to the horrible video quality (I watch on my TV via the HDMI out on my laptop). If I really needed to see a game the same day (instead of watching during the next week via the replay they always have for blacked out games) and my choices were justin.tv (or any other internet feed) or making the trek to the Ralph, you would find me with my scalped ticket. Edited July 7, 2013 by CodeMonkey
Buftex Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Not yet in Roch, but coming. "Sonic, based in Oklahoma City, announced Monday it had signed an agreement with a local franchise group headed by Fran DeSimone to open five local Sonics over the next four years. DeSimone has had local experience with Panera Bread, Burger King and Taco Bell franchises." http://www.democrata...?nclick_check=1 I've watched some on the internet as well. I prefer watching at home instead of at the Ralph because I can watch with my family and because of HD broadcasts. Those internet feeds are painful to watch due to the horrible video quality (I watch on my TV via the HDMI out on my laptop). If I really needed to see a game the same day (instead of watching during the next week via the replay they always have for blacked out games) and my choices were justin.tv (or any other internet feed) or making the trek to the Ralph, you would find me with my scalped ticket. Not to hi-jack this thread..but how do you do this? If you hook your laptop up to your HD tv, can you watch anything on the computer, using your TV as a monitor? I tried this once, at my sisters house (didn't have a laptop of my own at the time), but had no luck. Can you do this, and watch, say, Youtube videos on your 46' HDTV? Is it as simple as just running an HDMI cable from your laptop to your tv?
The Wiz Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Not yet in Roch, but coming. "Sonic, based in Oklahoma City, announced Monday it had signed an agreement with a local franchise group headed by Fran DeSimone to open five local Sonics over the next four years. DeSimone has had local experience with Panera Bread, Burger King and Taco Bell franchises." Funny story about that guy actually. All of those places that he's opened/run he was fired for sexual harassment. But I think everyone gets my point about the out of market advertisements. Not to hi-jack this thread..but how do you do this? If you hook your laptop up to your HD tv, can you watch anything on the computer, using your TV as a monitor? I tried this once, at my sisters house (didn't have a laptop of my own at the time), but had no luck. Can you do this, and watch, say, Youtube videos on your 46' HDTV? Is it as simple as just running an HDMI cable from your laptop to your tv? Yes. If you have HDMI port on your laptop and tv, you can use your tv as your laptop monitor.
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