bowery4 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I have flown Asiana a few times in the past and this scares me. RIP and prayers to the dead and injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I have flown Asiana a few times in the past and this scares me. RIP and prayers to the dead and injured. You are at more risk in your car on the highway. A silver lining from this event is that the investigators will learn the reasons for the crash and lessons will be applied making air travel even safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14127 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 ^^ this incident has pilot error written all over it. Which is interesting because usually the most senior experienced pilots fly widebodies on long routes due to higher pay, so these should be some of Asiania's better pilots.... A theory right now is that the ILS system was down and the on duty crew did not realize it. But they were landing VFR anyways so it seems they just misjudged the distance. It will be interesting to see what happens as more info comes out. I don't think heavy's like that often come VFR. IFR is more precise for busy airports. Who knows? A air China 747 once took of from ANC on a taxi way. Barely made it, clipped a snow bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 You are at more risk in your car on the highway. A silver lining from this event is that the investigators will learn the reasons for the crash and lessons will be applied making air travel even safer. The last US commercial fatal crash was the one in Clarence over 4 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) If this is simply straight pilot error on a sunny day at a location he's likely landed 100 times before.... It'd be a bit like driving home and ending up driving into your living room. Based solely on that, im guessing there's some mechanical issue that may very well have been poorly handled but to just straight miss it for no reason would be amazing in scale of the mess up. Edited July 7, 2013 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 ^^ this incident has pilot error written all over it. Which is interesting because usually the most senior experienced pilots fly widebodies on long routes due to higher pay, so these should be some of Asiania's better pilots.... A theory right now is that the ILS system was down and the on duty crew did not realize it. But they were landing VFR anyways so it seems they just misjudged the distance. It will be interesting to see what happens as more info comes out. Yes, the meatball was off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I'm flying thursday. Did I mention that I hate flying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 I'm flying thursday. Did I mention that I hate flying? I used to but then I found alcohol takes the edge off. Now I like flying and drink because........well just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14127 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I used to but then I found alcohol takes the edge off. Now I like flying and drink because........well just because. :beer: I found that out years ago and I'm a pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Video of the crash... http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/07/07/vo-plane-sf-plane-crash-on-cam.courtesy-fred-hayes.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 8, 2013 Author Share Posted July 8, 2013 Video of the crash... http://www.cnn.com/v...fred-hayes.html Holy hell. I can't believe after that only 2 died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I used to but then I found alcohol takes the edge off. Now I like flying and drink because........well just because. Ditto. Throw in a Xanax, Valium, or klonopin and I'm good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 When I used to work as a logger, I found that quaaludes really calmed me down. Anyways, looks like you guys were right. The inescapable conclusion seems to be pilot error although no "official" word yet. The pilot in charge of landing only had 43 hours with the 777. http://news.yahoo.com/asiana-says-pilot-crashed-plane-training-010133596.html Basically it sounds like he missed the runway which is exactly what I couldn't believe would actually happen. Too low, and too slow. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Holy hell. I can't believe after that only 2 died. Well-built plane, apparently. Looks like bad flying. I've seen footage of damaged B-17s landing more gracefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I found that out years ago and I'm a pilot. Like the one in the movie "Flight"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 When I used to work as a logger, I found that quaaludes really calmed me down. Anyways, looks like you guys were right. The inescapable conclusion seems to be pilot error although no "official" word yet. The pilot in charge of landing only had 43 hours with the 777. http://news.yahoo.com/asiana-says-pilot-crashed-plane-training-010133596.html Basically it sounds like he missed the runway which is exactly what I couldn't believe would actually happen. Too low, and too slow. Unbelievable. Wow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Wow.... My use of quaaludes while running a chainsaw or the pilot issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14127 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Like the one in the movie "Flight"? More discretion :bag: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 It used to be, when there was an air crash, the NTSB assumed the investigation and that was that till they were done. Now they can't wait to get in front of the microphones. At least they don't use a teleprompter! The Pilot flying only had 40+ hours in type, that's unbelievable!. Guess the other 3 pilots were not watching the airspeed indicator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 10 killed in Alaska crash involving Rediske Air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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