Rob's House Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 ...student, Elizabeth Daly, was walking to her car on April 11 at approximately 10:15 p.m. with a box of sparkling water, cookie dough and ice cream she had just bought from a local supermarket when the agents—six men and one woman, all in plainclothes—approached suspecting the box, a blue carton of LaCroix sparkling water, to be a 12-pack of beer. One jumped on the hood of her SUV; another pulled out a gun, Daly said, as her roommates seated inside looked on in horror. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/uva-girl-water-beer-jail-181104442.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadCap Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) This happens n VA, people have been talking about it nonstop. It's a crazy situation. Actually, she was arrested for striking two officers with her vehicle and evading police. I would be stunned if the charges were not dropped soon. Some more tidbits. The two girls were on their way back from a semi at on violence to women on campus when they saw a bunch of plain clothes officers yelling and screaming at them to get out of the car. I'd have hauled ass too! That being said, why the hell did a bunch of cops swarm these ladies because they thought they bought beer underage? By their reaction you'd have thought they bought skittles and Arizona tea! Edited June 30, 2013 by TheMadCap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 It's called a police state and it's not just for people different from you now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Were the "struck" officers drunk and Canadian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted June 30, 2013 Author Share Posted June 30, 2013 This happens n VA, people have been talking about it nonstop. It's a crazy situation. Actually, she was arrested for striking two officers with her vehicle and evading police. I would be stunned if the charges were not dropped soon. Some more tidbits. The two girls were on their way back from a semi at on violence to women on campus when they saw a bunch of plain clothes officers yelling and screaming at them to get out of the car. I'd have hauled ass too! I live in Richmond too so I've gotten an earful about it. The charges have been dropped but I still think it's a bizzarre story. I mean seriously, why would you have 7 cops working the parking lot trying to stop kids buying beer? Seven cops? Sounds like their department has a bit too much funding if they can spare that kind of man power to troll the grocery store parking lots. And why would they swarm the car like that? If that was my daughter all 7 of those ass holes would be looking at civil suits and I'd bring as much pressure as I could to have all of them fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Glad she wasn't buying an Arizona and Skittles. ABC agents are crazy in NC. You'd never ever know its them, know what they're up to but once you know what to look for, they are - best definition - a little creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I was walking into a gas station a bunch of years ago. Two guys in plain clothes approached me one stuck out his arm to stop me and I saw a gun and a badge (I think) under his coat. They asked me for ID and all I could think "Ok Jim, what have you done recently that will cause you to be arrested." They looked at my ID and said "it's not him." Whew......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I live in Richmond too so I've gotten an earful about it. The charges have been dropped but I still think it's a bizzarre story. I mean seriously, why would you have 7 cops working the parking lot trying to stop kids buying beer? Seven cops? Sounds like their department has a bit too much funding if they can spare that kind of man power to troll the grocery store parking lots. And why would they swarm the car like that? If that was my daughter all 7 of those ass holes would be looking at civil suits and I'd bring as much pressure as I could to have all of them fired. and the ones out there looking for the stills... Those ones are the badasses. But, they're jokes of an office because they aren't going to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted June 30, 2013 Author Share Posted June 30, 2013 Glad she wasn't buying an Arizona and Skittles. ABC agents are crazy in NC. You'd never ever know its them, know what they're up to but once you know what to look for, they are - best definition - a little creepy. To my way of thinking they're about a half step up the ladder from meter maids. The difference is, it's a rare meter maid that feels a righteous sense of purpose from his job. ABC agents on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Clearly we'll all be much safer when idiots like these are the only ones with guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted June 30, 2013 Author Share Posted June 30, 2013 and the ones out there looking for the stills... Those ones are the badasses. But, they're jokes of an office because they aren't going to stop it. I wouldn't be surprised to see them sitting on the floor of the local convenience store inspecting eggs. It's hard having a job with no purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 To my way of thinking they're about a half step up the ladder from meter maids. The difference is, it's a rare meter maid that feels a righteous sense of purpose from his job. Clearly you've never parked in DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 It'd be nice to see this kind of fervor and resources directed at banks who laundry billions of dollars for Mexican drug cartels but I won't hold my breath- or how about this aggressive attitude when it was needed during the VA university shootings, no there law enforcement was hiding err taking defensive positions behind trees and cars- I swear law enforcement has developed the same predatory eye criminals have, just looking for weak sheep to prey on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 http://news.yahoo.co...-181104442.html This is clearly a case of watching too many Starsky and Hutch reruns... Jumped on the hood?? Pulled a gun?? I'm willing to bet, none of them identified themselves as cops either..... Heck, if I was plain clothes, assigned to find underage alcohol buyers instead of murderers and rapists, I guess I'd be too embarrassed to ID myself too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 It'd be nice to see this kind of fervor and resources directed at banks who laundry billions of dollars for Mexican drug cartels but I won't hold my breath- or how about this aggressive attitude when it was needed during the VA university shootings, no there law enforcement was hiding err taking defensive positions behind trees and cars- I swear law enforcement has developed the same predatory eye criminals have, just looking for weak sheep to prey on. Is there any topic you can't directly turn into a crazy anti-bank rant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Is there any topic you can't directly turn into a crazy anti-bank rant? probably not, is there a financial crime, malfeasance, or unethical behavior you won't defend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 probably not, is there a financial crime, malfeasance, or unethical behavior you won't defend? With time, I actually find myself becoming more lenient when it comes to mortgage fraud. Just because I know it pisses you off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 With time, I actually find myself becoming more lenient when it comes to mortgage fraud. Just because I know it pisses you off. what type of mortgage fraud? fraud for profit or fraud for housing, or do you feel lenient towards both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 The great Mark Steyn chimes in; The Waterboard Team By Mark Steyn I’ve written before about the psychologically unhealthy need of every tinpot makework bureaucracy to run around pretending to be Seal Team Six. In a free society, a law-abiding citizen strolling the streets of her community has a reasonable expectation of occasionally encountering a uniformed constable, but plain-clothes, undercover “agents” from the Department of “Alcoholic Beverage Control” who want to examine her bottled water? When a half-dozen men and a woman in street clothes closed in on University of Virginia student Elizabeth Daly, 20, she and two roommates panicked. That led to Daly spending a night and an afternoon in the Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail. Her initial offense? Walking to her car with bottled water, cookie dough and ice cream just purchased from the Harris Teeter in the Barracks Road Shopping Center for a sorority benefit fundraiser. A group of state Alcoholic Beverage Control agents clad in plainclothes approached her, suspecting the blue carton of LaCroix sparkling water to be a 12-pack of beer. Police say one of the agents jumped on the hood of her car. She says one drew a gun. Unsure of who they were, Daly tried to flee the darkened parking lot. “They were showing unidentifiable badges after they approached us, but we became frightened, as they were not in anything close to a uniform,” she recalled Thursday in a written account of the April 11 incident. “I couldn’t put my windows down unless I started my car, and when I started my car they began yelling to not move the car, not to start the car. They began trying to break the windows. My roommates and I were … terrified,” Daly stated. Good. Next time you’ll know not to walk around with a blue cardboard box. If that’s not probable cause, I don’t know what is. Prosecutors say she apologized profusely when she realized who the agents were. But that wasn’t good enough for ABC agents, who charged her with three felonies. Prosecutors withdrew those charges Thursday in Charlottesville General District Court, but Daly still can’t understand why she sat in jail. She was facing potentially $7,500 in fines and 15 years in the slammer, but hey, what’s the big deal? As the Commonwealth’s Attorney says, “no one was hurt in the exchange” – which is always a possibility in sparkling-water stand-offs. This detail is choice: The woman was on edge after spending the night listening to stories from dozens of sexual assault survivors at an annual “Take Back the Night” vigil on Grounds, said Daly’s defense attorney, Francis Lawrence. Well, now she knows better. In an age of Big Government, when a strange man jumps on the hood of your car late at night and draws a gun on you, he’s almost certain, statistically speaking, to be a safety inspector from the Bureau of Compliance rather than the local rapist. So sleep easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 what type of mortgage fraud? fraud for profit or fraud for housing, or do you feel lenient towards both? It's not fraud if you don't get caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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