Mango Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) I've been a season ticket holder for coming up on 26 years, and I've never once brought a bag into a game. Blankets? Sure. Extra clothes? Yep. Duffel bag? Not once. Another change that doesn't affect me at all...guess I'll keep going to games. I am not a season ticket holder but go to 2-4 games per year. I always bring a bag for xt clothes, rain gear, or blankets. Sometimes just so I can keep track of clothing if I get too hot. Not to mention the pockets in my original Zubaz are terrible so it holds my wallet and phone This rule I think discourages attendance at cold weather and/or late games Edited June 14, 2013 by Mango
Just Jack Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 Here's the full press release from the NFL... http://www.nfl.com/allclear
zonabb Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I renew my seasons annually after they expire so (long story, missed a season due to job situation and lost seniority so screw it) I end up moving a lot but this year I haven't renewed and this certainly doesn't make me run to the phone to call and order em. Games have become a pain to be honest. The lines suck, this doesn't make it any better by any stretch because everyone will just use the clear bags, still requiring handling by these rent-a-cops. The crowd seems to get worse and more annoying every year. $9 crap beers (in Boston a few years ago I got a Sam Adams for $7!). The NFL really just wants your money, they want to minimize anything you can "sneak" in so they can sell you more. This war and terror (aka: epic fail) has been used as a fear tactic to strip everyone of their rights and liberties even when we want to enjoy a football game on Sunday. The Culture of Fear is a alive and profitable. And I don't carry anything in, I'm just getting sick of the greedy NFL... from this to the desire to a team in London, it's all just a game of follow the money. I enjoy the Bills, but as I age, it becomes less important and less worth it, particularly when it becomes just like real life... a reminder of greed and control and loss of privacy. So I was 50/50 on seats this year, this drops it for me. And if games don't sell out, and they won't, I'm OK with it. I no longer feel obligated to support this team or league and I think that sentiment is becoming pervasive among many fans who find it easier to watch the league at home, even if your team isn't on or is blacked out. I hope the feds step in and end some of the perks the NFL gets, like the blackouts that rob taxpayers who support these stadia from seeing games because they can't afford a seat... or in strong markets (ie not Bflo) can't get a seat.
bigK14094 Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I read the policy....actually, its not much different than the policy that was already in place . I actually have had that plastic bag they describe for more than 10 years. That is transparent, 1'x1'. I carry poncho's, small radio, binocs, sandwiches, chips whatever....just not liquids. Of course, my grey hair helps me through security. Younger folks get treated worse, I have seen it. (Although, last year I had to hold my i phone out in the rain so they could wand me. They said it was for the good of my i phone, the wand can damage them allegedly. Like putting it out in the rain could not!) I agree, the security provisions take away from the game experience substantially, and the lines are horrendous. I am likely a short timer as a season ticket holder, can't take this much longer.
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 The NFL is committed to making the game day experience as safe and enjoyable as possible for all fans. Thank you for your continued patronage. Thanks Rog!
BillnutinHouston Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) I honestly don't care if the entire NFL doesn't sell out, and none of the games are available in their markets. The NFL is basically telling me that they don't want my money. I'm more than happy to not give it to them. They are a business, and I am their target demographic. I don't own them anything. This, over not being able to bring your bag and instead bring a small, clear one? Wow. Edited June 14, 2013 by BillnutinHouston
Chandler#81 Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I don't mind this policy at all. It should help with waiting times at the gate, which have become ridiculous with all of the "bag-checking" that has to be done. As for bringing in your own food/drink -- hasn't been a concern for me since I outgrew stuffing the sleeves of my parka with beer cans. My only problem with it is when we suck on the field, to show our displeasure and embarrassment, if we pull plastic bags over our head, we'll DIE!!!
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 This, over not being able to bring your bag aand instead bring a small, clear one? Wow. Do you have a wife?
Hammered a Lot Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 The NFL has explained that seat cushions are prohibited because of the possibility that they will be used to conceal an explosive device. Need a seat cushion, wear Depends, bring in cardboard, fill a 12"x12" bag with newspaper, or STAND the whole game. I wonder if bubble wrap is band?
thebandit27 Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I honestly don't care if the entire NFL doesn't sell out, and none of the games are available in their markets. The NFL is basically telling me that they don't want my money. I'm more than happy to not give it to them. They are a business, and I am their target demographic. I don't own them anything. Nobody said you did. You said that the policy makes it easier to watch at home...cool, go for it. My point is that, by doing so, you lose your right to complain if the game doesn't sell out and you can't watch it at home. This, over not being able to bring your bag aand instead bring a small, clear one? Wow. Seriously. My only problem with it is when we suck on the field, to show our displeasure and embarrassment, if we pull plastic bags over our head, we'll DIE!!! According to the policy, you can still bring a brown paper bag, just fold it up and bring it along. Do you have a wife? Yep, and last year she came to 3 games while pregnant with twins (2 of which were in December)...no bag.
Hammered a Lot Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) I read the policy....actually, its not much different than the policy that was already in place . I actually have had that plastic bag they describe for more than 10 years. That is transparent, 1'x1'. I carry poncho's, small radio, binocs, sandwiches, chips whatever....just not liquids. Of course, my grey hair helps me through security. Younger folks get treated worse, I have seen it. (Although, last year I had to hold my i phone out in the rain so they could wand me. They said it was for the good of my i phone, the wand can damage them allegedly. Like putting it out in the rain could not!) I agree, the security provisions take away from the game experience substantially, and the lines are horrendous. I am likely a short timer as a season ticket holder, can't take this much longer. I agree the policy has a lot of filler with the DANGEROUS seat cushion the only new item prohibited. The security staff has been under staffed for a long time. Under staffing= longer gate times. Bills employee Andy Major stated the Bills want to make the games more Family Friendly so I would guess banning of alcohol from stadium grounds is next! Edited June 14, 2013 by Hammered a Lot
CodeMonkey Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) Nobody said you did. You said that the policy makes it easier to watch at home...cool, go for it. My point is that, by doing so, you lose your right to complain if the game doesn't sell out and you can't watch it at home. I disagree completely. As long as the team gets tax breaks, governments pay for stadiums, or supply police or any other perks given to NFL teams free of charge, the people paying for all these perks via their taxes should have the right to watch the game on TV if they so choose even if the local team is selling less beer due to empty seats in the stadium. Edited June 14, 2013 by CodeMonkey
thebandit27 Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I disagree completely. As long as the team gets tax breaks, governments pay for stadiums, or supply police or any other perks given to NFL teams free of charge, the people paying for all these perks via their taxes should have the right to watch the game on TV if they so choose even if the local team is selling less beer due to empty seats in the stadium. I think we're arguing different points...taking issue with the blackout rule is fine. My point is this: you know that the blackout rule exists, and therefore you know that your choice is to buy a ticket or risk not being able to see the game in the event of a non-sellout. Thus, if you live close enough to attend, and don't buy a ticket, you're doing so knowing that you may not get to see the game. Thus you really have no cause to complain if you can't watch it at home. You knew the situation and made a choice; that's fine...you just need to be willing to accept the end result of that choice.
CodeMonkey Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I think we're arguing different points...taking issue with the blackout rule is fine. My point is this: you know that the blackout rule exists, and therefore you know that your choice is to buy a ticket or risk not being able to see the game in the event of a non-sellout. Thus, if you live close enough to attend, and don't buy a ticket, you're doing so knowing that you may not get to see the game. Thus you really have no cause to complain if you can't watch it at home. You knew the situation and made a choice; that's fine...you just need to be willing to accept the end result of that choice. I see what you mean now and agree. But blackouts are just a sore spot for me in general
Cereal Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 As I see it, the seat cushion ban is the biggest gaffe here. Seat cushions provide such a large impact with minimal inconvenience. Especially in wet conditions, keeps your butt dry.
Helpmenow Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) The terrorists have won. . The economy hasnt recovered either. Spend more money on those two wars Edited June 14, 2013 by roush
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I renew my seasons annually after they expire so (long story, missed a season due to job situation and lost seniority so screw it) I end up moving a lot but this year I haven't renewed and this certainly doesn't make me run to the phone to call and order em. Games have become a pain to be honest. The lines suck, this doesn't make it any better by any stretch because everyone will just use the clear bags, still requiring handling by these rent-a-cops. The crowd seems to get worse and more annoying every year. $9 crap beers (in Boston a few years ago I got a Sam Adams for $7!). The NFL really just wants your money, they want to minimize anything you can "sneak" in so they can sell you more. This war and terror (aka: epic fail) has been used as a fear tactic to strip everyone of their rights and liberties even when we want to enjoy a football game on Sunday. The Culture of Fear is a alive and profitable. And I don't carry anything in, I'm just getting sick of the greedy NFL... from this to the desire to a team in London, it's all just a game of follow the money. I enjoy the Bills, but as I age, it becomes less important and less worth it, particularly when it becomes just like real life... a reminder of greed and control and loss of privacy. So I was 50/50 on seats this year, this drops it for me. And if games don't sell out, and they won't, I'm OK with it. I no longer feel obligated to support this team or league and I think that sentiment is becoming pervasive among many fans who find it easier to watch the league at home, even if your team isn't on or is blacked out. I hope the feds step in and end some of the perks the NFL gets, like the blackouts that rob taxpayers who support these stadia from seeing games because they can't afford a seat... or in strong markets (ie not Bflo) can't get a seat. Nailed it.
thebandit27 Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I see what you mean now and agree. But blackouts are just a sore spot for me in general I had a feeling we weren't on the same page there. I have no perspective on the blackouts as a 25-year season ticket holder. . The economy hasnt recovered either. Spend more money on those two wars Take it over to PPP
Gordio Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I agree the policy has a lot of filler with the DANGEROUS seat cushion the only new item prohibited. The security staff has been under staffed for a long time. Under staffing= longer gate times. Bills employee Andy Major stated the Bills want to make the games more Family Friendly so I would guess banning of alcohol from stadium grounds is next! I don't know if Brandon has enough hair on his balls to ban alcohol from stadium grounds. They would lose half their clientale(including me) & they know it. They could talk a good game about family atmosphere & such but at the end of the day they know exactly what age group & what type of people line their pockets every Sunday.
Fan in San Diego Posted June 14, 2013 Posted June 14, 2013 I renew my seasons annually after they expire so (long story, missed a season due to job situation and lost seniority so screw it) I end up moving a lot but this year I haven't renewed and this certainly doesn't make me run to the phone to call and order em. Games have become a pain to be honest. The lines suck, this doesn't make it any better by any stretch because everyone will just use the clear bags, still requiring handling by these rent-a-cops. The crowd seems to get worse and more annoying every year. $9 crap beers (in Boston a few years ago I got a Sam Adams for $7!). The NFL really just wants your money, they want to minimize anything you can "sneak" in so they can sell you more. This war and terror (aka: epic fail) has been used as a fear tactic to strip everyone of their rights and liberties even when we want to enjoy a football game on Sunday. The Culture of Fear is a alive and profitable. And I don't carry anything in, I'm just getting sick of the greedy NFL... from this to the desire to a team in London, it's all just a game of follow the money. I enjoy the Bills, but as I age, it becomes less important and less worth it, particularly when it becomes just like real life... a reminder of greed and control and loss of privacy. So I was 50/50 on seats this year, this drops it for me. And if games don't sell out, and they won't, I'm OK with it. I no longer feel obligated to support this team or league and I think that sentiment is becoming pervasive among many fans who find it easier to watch the league at home, even if your team isn't on or is blacked out. I hope the feds step in and end some of the perks the NFL gets, like the blackouts that rob taxpayers who support these stadia from seeing games because they can't afford a seat... or in strong markets (ie not Bflo) can't get a seat. I agree and you forgot to mention parking hassles and fees for parking. I prefer to just watch at home these days.
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