26CornerBlitz Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Just think for a moment about the kind of offence NE runs with TB and then try to imagine Tim Tebow under centre, Hilarious, right? In Denver they completely overhauled their system to accommodate Tebow's skill set. They are not going to do that in NE. So if Tebow is going to play QB in NE it will likely be in short yardage situations, in effect a third down back with whatever scheme diversity might be added by a possible read option capability. Tebow is a pretty fascinating guy. Not only is he a great athlete, but he's a great football player too. Unfortunately for him their is no regular in line starting position for him to play at the level the game is played in the NFL. But I guess that Josh and Bill have the best shot at finding something useful for him to do. On the NFL level, this is simply not the case.
starrymessenger Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 On the NFL level, this is simply not the case. You're probably right of course. Somehow I still think of him as a great player without a position. Maybe that makes no sense.
Ralph W. Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 One thing lost in all your girlie talk is the deep-seated disdain that BB* has for all things JETS. Remember he also put Floosie in to drop kick a PAT against Dieami. "He's got a skill and we got a chance to let him use it, and I am happy for him. First time since '41," said Belichick, a football historian who last month brought out a leather helmet in his media session. "It might be 60 years again, too." Could be more of the same thing going on here. It'll be interesting to say the least to see what develops further in Foxboro. And for all you Tebow haters, you should thank your lucky stars that Denver jumped back in the first round to take him ahead of Ralph Wilson. We were poised to strike and it stunned Ralph when Denver "panicked" to get him. I'm glad he'll get to play a little more after both Denver and the JESTS did about everything they could to ruin his chances of playing in the league. Would have been just another blunder by the Buffalo Bills if that happened.
26CornerBlitz Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 You're probably right of course. Somehow I still think of him as a great player without a position. Maybe that makes no sense. You're describing Denard Robinson. The former Michigan QB who knew very well that, regardless of his elite quickness and speed, he needed to change positions to make it in the NFL @USATODAYsports "Patriots Release Tim Tebow (Aug 31, 2013)" Let @MikeTanier explain: http://usat.ly/13zVEB8
eball Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 You're probably right of course. Somehow I still think of him as a great college player without an NFL position. Maybe that makes no sense. THAT makes sense.
Garranimal Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) On the NFL level, this is simply not the case. In your opinion....man for a guy who thinks Tebow has no talent, you spend an inordinate amount of time following him, threads about him and scouring the internet for information about him. Not sure i get it. I like Tebow. I like his attitude, his desire to win and they way he does not give up. I like that he overcame the worst play calling by any O-coord (run every single first down), a coach who did not believe in him and an undermining GM/President who looked like he was getting his colon-scoped every time Tebow accomplished anything to still lead his team to wins without whining or complaining. You don't, we get it....message is very clear. Why keep posting about how much you don't like him? Just curious. Edited June 11, 2013 by Garranimal
NoSaint Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 BB is famous for designing plays around his players vs trying to impose a scheme on them. Add in JM loves TT and Brady is secure in his position, I could see some plays designed for TT. Not saying a lot, but a few throughout season. And BTW there are situations like a 4th and 2 where they would punt with Brady but instead out tebow under center and give him the option, is another real possibility that doesn't even involve Brady missing a play. you do realize they would probably be more likely to go with brady, as hes remarkably efficient.
starrymessenger Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 THAT makes sense. Yes. That has been said many times. Not what I was thinking though.
26CornerBlitz Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 In your opinion....man for a guy who thinks Tebow has no talent, you spend an inordinate amount of time following him, threads about him and scouring the internet for information about him. Not sure i get it. I like Tebow. I like his attitude, his desire to win and they way he does not give up. I like that he overcame the worst play calling by any O-coord (run every single first down), a coach who did not believe in him and an undermining GM/President who looked like he was getting his colon-scoped every time Tebow accomplished anything to still lead his team to wins without whining or complaining. You don't, we get it....message is very clear. Why keep posting about how much you don't like him? Just curious. Because it's a football discussion forum. It's not a personal attack on him or posters on TSW. If you don't like my opinion on Tebow, you certainly have the option to disregard it or to simply not respond. Either way, I'm good.
biglukes Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) In your opinion....man for a guy who thinks Tebow has no talent, you spend an inordinate amount of time following him, threads about him and scouring the internet for information about him. Not sure i get it. I like Tebow. I like his attitude, his desire to win and they way he does not give up. I like that he overcame the worst play calling by any O-coord (run every single first down), a coach who did not believe in him and an undermining GM/President who looked like he was getting his colon-scoped every time Tebow accomplished anything to still lead his team to wins without whining or complaining. You don't, we get it....message is very clear. Why keep posting about how much you don't like him? Just curious. You realize that the reason the offense was designed and the plays called the way they were, was because of Tebow right? He was totally incapable of running Denver's normal offense so they had to dumb it down as much as possible, and even then Tebow had very limited success. And maybe the coach didn't believe in him because he isn't very good. Nobody is out to hold Tebow back. If he was capable of starting at QB in this league, he would be. Not battling for a 3rd string job like he is now. Edited June 11, 2013 by biglukes
26CornerBlitz Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 @ShaunOHara60 Still scratching my head on Pats signing Tebow. I don't recall them having any issues with the punt team.
Garranimal Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) You realize that the reason the offense was designed and the plays called the way they were, was because of Tebow right? He was totally incapable of running Denver's normal offense so they had to dumb it down as much as possible, and even then Tebow had very limited success. And maybe the coach didn't believe in him because he isn't very good. Nobody is out to hold Tebow back. If he was capable of starting at QB in this league, he would be. Not battling for a 3rd string job like he is now. no, that is your opinion and a spin on the real situation. please explain to me the change in Tebow's 4th quarter QBR when the coaches finally stopped calling run run....ok make a play on 3rd and long. i believe Tebow had one of the highest 4th qtr QBRs in the league in 2011. Urban Meyer has refuted every one of these Horse-Hoge stories about Tebow's supposed incapability of running an offense. also supported by statements from Jon Gruden, Dan Mullen and Mike Westhoff. But it was said on ESPN by one of their super intelligent analysts (such as Cris Carter) so it must be true....because ESPN is always accurate, well researched and unbiased. Edited June 11, 2013 by Garranimal
Clockwork Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Here is something I can't wrap my brain around - For all of the pundits citing Tebow's lack of ability to play QB, but generally blown away by his "drive, football IQ, and sticktoitiveness", shouldn't he have learned a few things by now after a few years in the league?
Doc Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 One thing lost in all your girlie talk is the deep-seated disdain that BB* has for all things JETS. Remember he also put Floosie in to drop kick a PAT against Dieami. "He's got a skill and we got a chance to let him use it, and I am happy for him. First time since '41," said Belichick, a football historian who last month brought out a leather helmet in his media session. "It might be 60 years again, too." Could be more of the same thing going on here. It'll be interesting to say the least to see what develops further in Foxboro. And for all you Tebow haters, you should thank your lucky stars that Denver jumped back in the first round to take him ahead of Ralph Wilson. We were poised to strike and it stunned Ralph when Denver "panicked" to get him. I'm glad he'll get to play a little more after both Denver and the JESTS did about everything they could to ruin his chances of playing in the league. The Bills never wanted Tebow. He is all of this, you're right -- and he's not a very good NFL player, which is really what this is all about. Yep. Seems like a good guy. But not NFL material. Here is something I can't wrap my brain around - For all of the pundits citing Tebow's lack of ability to play QB, but generally blown away by his "drive, football IQ, and sticktoitiveness", shouldn't he have learned a few things by now after a few years in the league? Doesn't matter. Belichick is a master at developing QB's.
Kellyto83TD Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 LOL they can have him and the over hyped circus that comes with him
eball Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Doesn't matter. Belichick is a master at developing QB. Fixed.
Fan in San Diego Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 This is like the movie Raiders of the Lost Ark. Hitler (Bellicheat) is trying to get the Holy Grail (Tebow) to help defeat his enemies. Hopefully this ends the same way as the movie.
Doc Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Fixed. My post was sarcasm. Belichick hasn't developed anyone. He got lucky with Brady.
Simon Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 And for all you Tebow haters, you should thank your lucky stars that Denver jumped back in the first round to take him ahead of Ralph Wilson. We were poised to strike and it stunned Ralph when Denver "panicked" to get him. I don't know if you've been had by the Tebow hype machine or are part of the Tebow hype machine, but this completely fabricated rumor that you continue to spread has never had single morsel of truth to it. The Bills were after Demaryius Thomas and had no interest in Tim Tebow
BuffaloBob Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Tebow was hired so he can lay hands on Gronk. just sprayed water through my nose! Thanks for that! LOL
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