Mr. WEO Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 My understanding of Parker's position is that Byrd was "under paid" during his rookie contract and he wants enough money now to compensate Byrd for being "under paid" for those years too in addition to getting top dog dollars for his next years. Is there an agnet out there who doesn't think his client was underpaid in his rookie contract? And who negotiated that contract? My understanding of Parker's position is that Byrd was "under paid" during his rookie contract and he wants enough money now to compensate Byrd for being "under paid" for those years too in addition to getting top dog dollars for his next years. Is there an agnet out there who doesn't think his client was underpaid in his rookie contract? And who negotiated that contract?
PromoTheRobot Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) I'd guess he'd want to tack a little on for inflation and going into his prime, but I don't get the impression it's a "you owe me extra", as much as simply "it's time, no more discounts" Here's the quote: “Under the system, the Bills were allowed to pay Jairus substantially less than a Pro Bowl player at his position makes for four years,” Parker said. “The Bills, under the CBA, have the ability to restrict his free agency by making him a one-year offer, which we can accept or not accept. “He’s fulfilled every clause of his contract, and he’s played at 15 to 20 percent of what his market value is for a player at his position, and he did it for four years with no complaints. “Now, it’s time. We’ve got to figure something out.” So is Parker saying Byrd played at a pro bowl level for 4 years even though he was named a pro bowler (a late replacement addition at that) only this year? Not following his logic. Does making the pro bowl (barely) once maker you a career pro bowler? PTR Edited July 10, 2013 by PromoTheRobot
NoSaint Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Is there an agnet out there who doesn't think his client was underpaid in his rookie contract? And who negotiated that contract? well, more than the agent, id say demaurice smith and a bunch of vet players negotiated those rookie contracts. its part of the system, and i think eugene is acknowledging that its no harm no foul having him play under that system, but the system now allows him to dig in a little bit too.
Homey D. Clown Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Byrd's agent is an extortion artist, and I think everyone needs to get used to the idea that you'll probably not see him play another down for Buffalo.
bowery4 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Byrd has no real leverage right now and thus no reason to be traded. Either he signs the one year tender or doesnt get paid Or he could hold out til November and still get his agrud (sp?) year. And I think, get paid til the season is over.
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 If Byrd leaves, it's because he wants to, not because of the agent. He could sign the franchise tender any time he wants, whether Parker wants him to or not. Parker has zero ability to "see to" anything; in the end, it's Byrd's decision. If he chooses to delegate all contract-related responsibility to Parker, then that's still his decision. If Byrd leaves it's because the Bills aren't willing to pay him what another team is willing to pay him. Who wouldn't switch companies if someone else offered more money to do the same work? I don't think it has much to do with where he wants to play...he's got one (1) chance at a big contract, and this is it. He'll wisely play wherever the most money is. Also seems wise of Byrd not to get in Parker's way. He has one of the top agents in football, who handles negotiations for a living. Why not let him do his job?
DDD Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Byrd's agent is an extortion artist, and I think everyone needs to get used to the idea that you'll probably not see him play another down for Buffalo. Agreed. See Jason Peters. But it's also possible Byrd simply doesn't want to play in Buffalo as he's said he wants to play for a winning orgainization. Edited July 10, 2013 by DDD
bbb Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Ever heard of the saying "What have you done for me lately" ? 2009 is ancient history. Get 9 interceptions every year and you can talk about being Elite and $9m+ pa contracts. The last 3 years seems to provide an accurate sample of what you get. What were his stats last year? Why look back 3 years. He became a great open field tackler along the way, and I don't have his stats, but it seemed to me he got back to being a great ballhawk last year. My memory is that he was the only one coming up with the ball.
Nanker Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 The Bills got a First Rounder # 28 (Philly had 2 #1s that year), a 4th Rounder (#121 overall) the following year, and a low pick in 2010 for Jason Peters. No surprise that Parker found no team would pony up the 2 #1 picks for Byrd this year when he shopped his services around the League. But he does know what other teams would pay Byrd, and pay FOR Byrd. If he can get Byrd free of any Bills attachment, then he can get more $ for his player. No team is going to give up multiple draft picks for a FS and then give him the highest contract for a DB. LT - well, it happened, but FS... I don't think so. The way he gets Byrd free of his attachment to The Bills is to hold out this year and "force" the team to let him sign his tender with the stipulation that he's a FA at the end of this year. Personally, I don't think Whaley will do that, because at that point, it comes down to "!@#$ me? !@#$ me. !@#$ YOU, you motha !@#$ er!" Which is how I think Whaley will handle it. Take it or leave it kid, and we'll be doing the same thing next year too.
Flutie7Flakes Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 No surprise that Parker found no team would pony up the 2 #1 picks for Byrd this year when he shopped his services around the League. But he does know what other teams would pay Byrd, and pay FOR Byrd. If he can get Byrd free of any Bills attachment, then he can get more $ for his player. No team is going to give up multiple draft picks for a FS and then give him the highest contract for a DB. LT - well, it happened, but FS... I don't think so. To add to your point - I would like to see him traded if he's unwilling to play for Buffalo any longer. Whether we get 2 - 2nd rounders or even just one at least it is some value. Hopefully Duke Williams can step up this year and Aaron Williams' transition to safety goes smoothly. I personally wouldn't be upset if we traded any of the following for picks: B. Smith, TJ Graham or Mario. The latter being a player I'd like to see pay off, but our expectations were too high for him/his role on the DEF last year and his injuries played a key role in adhering his abilities/our play.
thebandit27 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 If Byrd leaves it's because the Bills aren't willing to pay him what another team is willing to pay him. Who wouldn't switch companies if someone else offered more money to do the same work? I don't think it has much to do with where he wants to play...he's got one (1) chance at a big contract, and this is it. He'll wisely play wherever the most money is. Also seems wise of Byrd not to get in Parker's way. He has one of the top agents in football, who handles negotiations for a living. Why not let him do his job? Yes...this would be the expanded version of my statement that "if he leaves, it's because he wants to"; the money would be the reason he wants to...but make no mistake, the decision is Byrd's, not Parker's, as the previous poster indicated.
uncle flap Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 So is Parker saying Byrd played at a pro bowl level for 4 years even though he was named a pro bowler (a late replacement addition at that) only this year? Not following his logic. Does making the pro bowl (barely) once maker you a career pro bowler? PTR FWIW, this past year he was selected to the All-Pro team which many would argue is a higher achievement. And Byrd was selected to the Pro Bowl and the All-Pro team following his rookie year. He just didn't play in the Pro Bowl because he chose to undergo shoulder surgery instead. If Byrd leaves it's because the Bills aren't willing to pay him what another team is willing to pay him. I don't know how you can be so sure. What if the [insert team likely to go to the Super Bowl] were to sign him for less money? Do the Bills become a better option simply because they are willing to shell out a little more money? Obviously, it's cliche but Byrd essentially said, "it's about the money, but it's not all about the money." I think he'd take a discount to be on a surefire contender. Of course the Bills retain his rights, so it's not a cut and dry situation.
mattsox Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 With Byrd unsigned & not reporting - who are possible trade suitors and what would we get for him? Any other players worth trading away on our squad for better value? (picks, young players, etc.) Whaley seems to be taking an initiative to make moves (i.e. Hughes trade, Branch signing). Crossing my fingers that our LBs can pull it together this year! I know there's nothing going on other than this being in the news, but really? Byrd will play for us this season regardless. He'll get a big raise even if it is one year. Kinda better for us in a way if he plays under the franchise tag. It means he'll be playing hard for another contract the following season if we don't get it ironed out. Don't see the big deal here...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Yes...this would be the expanded version of my statement that "if he leaves, it's because he wants to"; the money would be the reason he wants to...but make no mistake, the decision is Byrd's, not Parker's, as the previous poster indicated. It is Byrd's decision but it seems smart to defer to one of the top agents in football. This is the contract that will set the young man up financially for the rest of his life, if he plays it right. Imo this is really the Bills' call. They can give Byrd a deal in-line with what Parker knows they could get elsewhere, or they can part ways (sooner or later).
mitchmurraydowntown Posted July 10, 2013 Author Posted July 10, 2013 It is Byrd's decision but it seems smart to defer to one of the top agents in football. This is the contract that will set the young man up financially for the rest of his life, if he plays it right. Imo this is really the Bills' call. They can give Byrd a deal in-line with what Parker knows they could get elsewhere, or they can part ways (sooner or later). Byrd will remain a Bills' player this season only, then he's gone. The tender goes up to over $8 Million after this season & if the Bills were willing to pay that, why not just give him a contract now ??
bbb Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 FWIW, this past year he was selected to the All-Pro team which many would argue is a higher achievement. And Byrd was selected to the Pro Bowl and the All-Pro team following his rookie year. He just didn't play in the Pro Bowl because he chose to undergo shoulder surgery instead. Nobody who knows anything would argue that it is not a higher achievement.
NoSaint Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Byrd will remain a Bills' player this season only, then he's gone. The tender goes up to over $8 Million after this season & if the Bills were willing to pay that, why not just give him a contract now ?? Because you can pay him 15 over two years with only the current years salary guaranteed on a series of 1 year options instead of likely paying out and guaranteeing closer to 20m right now. The terms would still be advantageous, though obviously it may build bad blood.... But strictly looking dollars and cents, the bills still come out ahead with 2 tags. They could also choose to offer more next year having given him a year to audition in a new system, see what the young guys do and let him carry the burden of low guarantees, instead of going all in today. Edited July 10, 2013 by NoSaint
uncle flap Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Nobody who knows anything would argue that it is not a higher achievement. Hey, I was just being diplomatic.
thebandit27 Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 It is Byrd's decision but it seems smart to defer to one of the top agents in football. This is the contract that will set the young man up financially for the rest of his life, if he plays it right. Imo this is really the Bills' call. They can give Byrd a deal in-line with what Parker knows they could get elsewhere, or they can part ways (sooner or later). Sure, no denying that he's doing the right thing by relying on Parker's expertise in the scenario. I just fervently disagree when I see someone opine that Parker is "going to get Byrd traded"...it's not up to Parker. Ultimately, it's up to the Bills and Byrd.
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