BF_in_Indiana Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 As usual, an emotionally charged situation brings out those who are all about enhancing their "freedom" at the expense of "yours". "The Second Amendment is outdated". In a place where ridiculous statements are made EVERY day, there are few that could possibly trump this one. I'm not surprised it was made by someone with so little life experience. Your children are FAR more likely to be killed by a drunk driver or in a bicycle accident than they are with a firearm. Not that the mass media will ever tell you that. Nor are they likely to report the 3,000-8,000 times EVERY DAY (depending on whose figures you believe) that a private citizen protects their property using a privately owned handgun. Instead, they concentrate on stories of that will whip you into a frenzy (not unlike the Randy Moss faux pants dropping) and you buy into it hook, line, and sinker. Currently there are about 2000 citizens per police officer in this country. You don't want to own a firearm, that's fine - good luck with "Dial a Prayer". Just don't tell me the 2nd Amendment is less relevent because it's quite the contrary. The right to protect ones' self and property is fundamental. If you don't believe me, go watch Hotel Rwanda. Big picture people. Leave myopia to the bureaucrats. 201785[/snapback] I agree. I do however feel that there needs to be a better background check system in place. It's too easy for someone to buy a gun that shouldn't have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 As usual, an emotionally charged situation brings out those who are all about enhancing their "freedom" at the expense of "yours". "The Second Amendment is outdated". In a place where ridiculous statements are made EVERY day, there are few that could possibly trump this one. I'm not surprised it was made by someone with so little life experience. Your children are FAR more likely to be killed by a drunk driver or in a bicycle accident than they are with a firearm. Not that the mass media will ever tell you that. Nor are they likely to report the 3,000-8,000 times EVERY DAY (depending on whose figures you believe) that a private citizen protects their property using a privately owned handgun. Instead, they concentrate on stories of that will whip you into a frenzy (not unlike the Randy Moss faux pants dropping) and you buy into it hook, line, and sinker. Currently there are about 2000 citizens per police officer in this country. You don't want to own a firearm, that's fine - good luck with "Dial a Prayer". Just don't tell me the 2nd Amendment is less relevent because it's quite the contrary. The right to protect ones' self and property is fundamental. If you don't believe me, go watch Hotel Rwanda. Big picture people. Leave myopia to the bureaucrats. 201785[/snapback] Alaska, I agree with a lot of this....I will not be....nor will my family be...victims hoping that the police arrive in time to save us......everyone except for my 9 year old daughter knows how to handle a firearm (and she will to when she gets older) I have a ADT system on my house, a "safe room" that basically is my own bedroom with very strong oak door and one window that cannot be accessed from the outside without great difficulty (this is also where my firearms are kept) I also have large dogs who love my family but are not overly fond of anyone else (unless we choose them to be) I take my families security very seriously....it is too bad that there are folks out there that simply are not smart with HOW they handle their weapons.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Alaska, I agree with a lot of this....I will not be....nor will my family be...victims hoping that the police arrive in time to save us......everyone except for my 9 year old daughter knows how to handle a firearm (and she will to when she gets older) I have a ADT system on my house, a "safe room" that basically is my own bedroom with very strong oak door and one window that cannot be accessed from the outside without great difficulty (this is also where my firearms are kept) I also have large dogs who love my family but are not overly fond of anyone else (unless we choose them to be) I take my families security very seriously....it is too bad that there are folks out there that simply are not smart with HOW they handle their weapons.... 201801[/snapback] You sound like you live in a friggin bunker waiting for Charlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 You sound like you live in a friggin bunker waiting for Charlie. 201806[/snapback] Chance favors the prepared man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I agree. I do however feel that there needs to be a better background check system in place. It's too easy for someone to buy a gun that shouldn't have one. 201798[/snapback] Not many criminals or unstable people buy guns legally. The world is awash in guns and criminals don't care much about laws - or they wouldn't be criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Chance favors the prepared man. 201809[/snapback] Kevin McCallister didn't even need a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Not many criminals or unstable people buy guns legally. The world is awash in guns and criminals don't care much about laws - or they wouldn't be criminals. 201812[/snapback] Well let's put it this way. A friend of mine loves guns and owns several, but he's the type of guy that will go out at night and shoot stop signs and stuff. He's not a criminal, but let's be honest, should someone like that really be the owner of handguns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Kevin McCallister didn't even need a gun. 201816[/snapback] Please tell me you're not talking about "Home Alone". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Well let's put it this way. A friend of mine loves guns and owns several, but he's the type of guy that will go out at night and shoot stop signs and stuff. He's not a criminal, but let's be honest, should someone like that really be the owner of handguns? 201820[/snapback] I'm sure you've reported his behavior to the proper authorities, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Chance favors the prepared man. 201809[/snapback] I agree, but that doesn't mean I need to do all that on the 1 in a million shot that something ever does happen. Owning a handgun and knowing how to use it is enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I agree, but that doesn't mean I need to do all that on the 1 in a million shot that something ever does happen. Owning a handgun and knowing how to use it is enough for me. 201826[/snapback] Everyone has their limit. Most change as their lives go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I'm sure you've reported his behavior to the proper authorities, right? 201825[/snapback] I've never been along and actually saw him do it. He's just told me about it. I won't report something I didn't see with my own two eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Please tell me you're not talking about "Home Alone". 201822[/snapback] Haha, yes I am, but I'm not actually suggesting that people should stock their homes with paint cans and hot wheels cars instead of guns. Your quote about being prepared simply reminded me of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Haha, yes I am, but I'm not actually suggesting that people should stock their homes with paint cans and hot wheels cars instead of guns. Your quote about being prepared simply reminded me of the movie. 201829[/snapback] Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Fair enough. 201831[/snapback] Hey I think he did use a BB gun though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Hey I think he did use a BB gun though 201833[/snapback] If he'd been trained with his dad's 12 gauge, it'd have been a VERY short movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 If he'd been trained with his dad's 12 gauge, it'd have been a VERY short movie. 201836[/snapback] And little kids everywhere would still be having nightmares of the Wet Bandits getting blasted They would end up like the star of the movie. Now that kid is one screwed up adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 If he'd been trained with his dad's 12 gauge, it'd have been a VERY short movie. 201836[/snapback] Yeah but we'd all have to live without Home Alone 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Yeah but we'd all have to live without Home Alone 2. 201842[/snapback] Waiting for the downside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 You'll live to be 90. 201768[/snapback] Actually, barring unnatural death (suicide, war, car accident, etc.) no one in my family has ever died before their 90th birthday, going back to my great-grandparents on both sides. Save for the whole mental-illness thing, I've got great genes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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