Chef Jim Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) Isn't it agreed that Sussudio is pretty much the worst crap ever put on a recording? BTW, my vote for overrated is GNR..............And, the thing is probably my all time favorite song is Sweet Child O Mine...........But, everything else I have tried to get into and just can't. None of it has the melody of Sweet Child. Just repetitive pounding. You know the first time I heard Welcome to the Jungle I thought it was amazing anything but repetitive pounding. More complex than a lot of other metal band crap being put out there. When I found out it was GNR I was floored. I used to see their name on the Troubadour on Santa Monica Blvd when I drove by for work. By then it was too late to see them in the tiny venue. BTW Duff runs a wealth management firm for musicians. Dude almost died when his pancreas exploded. He used to drink a gallon of vodka a day and switched to wine seeing he felt it wasn't as bad as the heavy stuff. The proceeded to drink 10 bottles a day. I've been known to hit the wine pretty hard but I'm tapped out at two bottles but ten??? WTF dude. Edited May 27, 2013 by Chef Jim
Delete This Account Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) Funny...everyone always forgets Charlie Rich....IMO, the ranking goes Elvis, Charlie Rich, Perkins, Jerry Lee and then Cash. If it is a Mount Rushmore, Cash is the one I leave off. I think Johnny has benefitted mightily from the hipster makeover over the last 15-20 years. If you go back and really listen to his catalog, it spirals every bit as far into slopiness that Elvis' ever did..he just lived long enough to be saved by the young turks. That doesnt' mean to say I don't like him... hipster movement. is the one you're referring to when he went to Folsom County Prison to perform. or might it just be the "Boy Named Sue?" "Don't Take Your Guns to Town," "I Walk The Line," "Ring of Fire," or might it be when he teamed up with the Carter Family. or, might it be the rebel finger in the air pose he struck on a billboard in Nashville to share his disdain for the corporate sound? yes, him redoing "Hurt" saved his soul and reputation, given that his reputation as a "rocker/rebel" had already been established long before Rick Rubin got to him. Leave Johnny Cash off? Charlie Rich did to country music what essentially Michael MacDonald did to rock and the Doobie Brothers. jw Edited May 27, 2013 by john wawrow
DC Tom Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 Isn't it agreed that Sussudio is pretty much the worst crap ever put on a recording? No, that would be - wait for it... ...this.
Doc Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 No, that would be - wait for it... ...this. I'll see you that, and raise you this:
DC Tom Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 I'll see you that, and raise you this: Well if we're going to do theater of the absurd...
Rob's House Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 Thank you. I think I'll take just about every music critic ever's opinion over somebody who heard that he's good live and who doesn't love Born in the USA............As somebody who has seen Bruce 25 times, I can say I don't love that song, at all. His lives shows are religious experiences. To each his own. I don't begrudge you your religious experience, I just don't share it. Perhaps if I mined his old albums I might find something to change my opinion, but from what I've heard, which is most everything he's put out that ever got air play, he doesn't do much for me. Also, he's awfully damn soft for a guy who is supposed to exemplify rock. I really don't too much care for any of his songs, including Born in the USA (although when I was 8 that song was awesome). Isn't it agreed that Sussudio is pretty much the worst crap ever put on a recording? BTW, my vote for overrated is GNR..............And, the thing is probably my all time favorite song is Sweet Child O Mine...........But, everything else I have tried to get into and just can't. None of it has the melody of Sweet Child. Just repetitive pounding. You should check out Use Your Illusion 2. There are some excellent songs on that album. If I'm in the right mood on a spring day when the sun is shining, I can have a religious experience listening to "Breakdown".
bbb Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 You know the first time I heard Welcome to the Jungle I thought it was amazing anything but repetitive pounding. More complex than a lot of other metal band crap being put out there. When I found out it was GNR I was floored. I used to see their name on the Troubadour on Santa Monica Blvd when I drove by for work. By then it was too late to see them in the tiny venue. BTW Duff runs a wealth management firm for musicians. Dude almost died when his pancreas exploded. He used to drink a gallon of vodka a day and switched to wine seeing he felt it wasn't as bad as the heavy stuff. The proceeded to drink 10 bottles a day. I've been known to hit the wine pretty hard but I'm tapped out at two bottles but ten??? WTF dude. He writes columns on espn.com, too. Interesting guy.
Delete This Account Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) To each his own. I don't begrudge you your religious experience, I just don't share it. Perhaps if I mined his old albums I might find something to change my opinion, but from what I've heard, which is most everything he's put out that ever got air play, he doesn't do much for me. Also, he's awfully damn soft for a guy who is supposed to exemplify rock. I really don't too much care for any of his songs, including Born in the USA (although when I was 8 that song was awesome). from what you've heard isn't enough? i listed numerous songs that aren't either "Born In The USA" or off that album or "Tunnel of Love." give them a listen before going further in making accusations. as noted: many of his less popular songs can be regarded as under-rated. many. jw Edited May 27, 2013 by john wawrow
bbb Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 The one thing I can see people not liking is Bruce's voice. When I first heard it, I was like who told this guy he could sing??
Doc Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 Well if we're going to do theater of the absurd... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LYIJvBmHaQo That's infinitely better than Becky or Billy attempting to sing. At least Anka can.
Mark Vader Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 One could argue? No I think it's 100% certain. They were uber underrated during the Peter Gabriel years and WAY overrated after. Su, su, sussudio. Are you !@#$ing kidding me. Hmmm...Chef Jim and Buftex are growing up. Lately we've been agreeing more than disagreeing. .Let's not get carried away.
birdog1960 Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) i'll limit t to well known bands so that eliminates quite a few under appreciated ones. most underrated: Talking Heads. way ahead of their time. talented. true to their art. Michael Buble. perfect pitch. impeccable timing and phrasing. understated persona. Haley Westenra. angelic. amazing range and tone. most overrated. Sinatra, especially in the later years. many better voices out there. too dramatized in many cases for my taste. Springsteen. just never got it. never got my adrenaline flowing. never came close to putting me in awe. Streisand. just annoys the hell out of me. Jimmy Buffet. wtf? i've seen much better acts with much more talent playing in honky tonks for tips. Edited May 28, 2013 by birdog1960
Maury Ballstein Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 Underrated....weezer .....g love and special sauce
Gugny Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 Isn't it agreed that Sussudio is pretty much the worst crap ever put on a recording? BTW, my vote for overrated is GNR..............And, the thing is probably my all time favorite song is Sweet Child O Mine...........But, everything else I have tried to get into and just can't. None of it has the melody of Sweet Child. Just repetitive pounding. You're showing your naiveté about music. Sussudio is probably the most beautifully written song Peter Gabriel ever put to paper. I like Guns and Roses, but I can see how they could be overrated. But dissing a Gabriel classic just loses all of your credibility, dude.
Delete This Account Posted May 28, 2013 Author Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) You're showing your naiveté about music. Sussudio is probably the most beautifully written song Peter Gabriel ever put to paper. I like Guns and Roses, but I can see how they could be overrated. But dissing a Gabriel classic just loses all of your credibility, dude. you're kidding, right, in regards to who wrote Sussudio? my god, do people just put stuff out believing or hoping it to be true? jw as for the best song Peter Gabriel actually wrote, it's essentially a toss up between: Solsbury Hill and Biko. Edited May 28, 2013 by john wawrow
Gugny Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 you're kidding, right, in regards to who wrote Sussudio? my god, do people just put stuff out believing or hoping it to be true? jw as for the best song Peter Gabriel actually wrote, it's essentially a toss up between: Solsbury Hill and Biko. Here we go. Another one who believes what's in the parentheses below the song title. Let me guess; you think Lennon and McCartney actually collaborated on all those Beatles tunes, right? Phil Collins couldn't dream of writing an epic song like Sussudio. Any true Genesis fan knows it was a Gabriel throwback. And Salisbury Hill was nothing but a pop song with synthesized horns. Weak.
Jim in Anchorage Posted May 28, 2013 Posted May 28, 2013 I know who sang Sussudio because I have it on a 42. 45. 42 is the distance Norwood missed the SB field goal from.
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