Jim in Anchorage Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 the overrated pair are overrated. Cheap trick is one of few bands where today's kids know the music but no idea who sang bit or how good the other songs were. Natalie and Jewel are both very good vocalists that go forgotten besides other equally amazing women. I think you just like Jewels jugs
Maury Ballstein Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 So Led Zep made someone's overrated list ? That's something. I gotta disagree w ya there. Overrated U2, Dave Matthews, Underrated NOFX,
BUFFALOKIE Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Overrated : Metallica, nirvana Underrated: Jewel, Natalie Maines, cheap trick You sir, are wrong.
cwchze Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Only do underrated..music too subjective My favorite somewhat popular musicians.. Todd rungren Talking heads Peter Gabriel Steve Perry..journey and solo..sorry new guy can't hold steve's set of pipes Elton John..saw him in Saratoga mid eighties..just went off for 3 hrs.absolutely amazon Agree on cheap trick Zz top
Just Jack Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Overrated : Phil Collins/Genesis Underrated : Peter Gabriel
Jim in Anchorage Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Only do underrated..music too subjective My favorite somewhat popular musicians.. Todd rungren Talking heads Peter Gabriel Steve Perry..journey and solo..sorry new guy can't hold steve's set of pipes Elton John..saw him in Saratoga mid eighties..just went off for 3 hrs.absolutely amazon Agree on cheap trick Zz top Elton John underrated? He was knighted for Gods sake.
Justice Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Underrated: System of a Down Overrated: Elvis Presley
Doc Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 I think you just like Jewels jugs Who doesn't? Not to mention the rest of her (outside of the snaggle-tooth).
Delete This Account Posted May 26, 2013 Author Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) as noted, got more coming. thinking of releasing the latest Tuesday morning. a few thoughts: Elvis Presley can never be over-rated despite his long, slow, spiral into sloppiness. that said, i would suggest that he was the least interesting and least talented of the Sun Studios' Mount Rushmore rounded out by Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins and Jerry Lee Lewis. now those three could rock. funny, that everyone's debating my pick of Jethro Tull as being over-rated, and yet there is nothing here regarding Joan Jett as being my 10th under-rated artist. not sure if that's a good or a bad thing. from the beginning, Joan established herself as one heck of a rocker in her stint with the Runaways. she was their most talented member, trumping Lita Ford. and her body of work through the decades holds up. it's too bad some -- many? -- dismissed her as a one-trick pony because of the "Jukebox" song. in the end, she's outlasted Chrissie Hynde as a rocker, because Hynde's best days are far behind her and mostly limited to the Pretenders first album, which owed its success far more to James Honeywell Scott's grizzly guitar playing, and how it complemented Hynde's growl. Scott's passing, as well as Farndon's death soon after, took all the guts, glory and fuel out of this group, and most probably cost rock and roll fans a chance to see this band's full potential. (and no, the pretenders don't make my list of over-rated). oh, and anyone suggesting Elton John is "under-rated" has spent far too much time locked in a cold dark cellar without a radio, record, cassette and cd player for 40 years. geez, Elton John, under-rated. he's so "respected" in music circles that they parade him out to do duets with "artists" seeking to improve their reputation. jw you sound like Lester Bangs in Almost Famous... and you know what, i read CREEM Magazine growing up. a wonderful magazine inspired by Mr. Bangs. Overrated : Metallica, nirvana Underrated: Jewel, Natalie Maines, cheap trick gotta disagree there. but this is one person's opinion. what Metallica did in leading up and including their "Enter Sandman" album was important in ushering in a post-80s sound. both they and GNR's first album provided the bridge that amalgamated hair-metal and punk to push music forward. what followed hasn't been pretty, but ... cheap trick, sure. as for Natalie Maines, the Dixie Chicks can make a case for being somewhat under-rated, or perhaps, dismissed as a mere "country" group, or "that band that insulted Bush." but their record sales and the critical acclaim derived from their last album removes them from under-rated contention in my opinion. that said, their best album, "Home," is extremely under-rated. as for Maines, haven't picked up her new cd yet. am interested. hope it's better than the other two's debut Courtyard Hounds. that was very underwhelming, coming off as watered-down Sheryl Crow wanabes. even the name of their group seemed forced, jw Edited May 26, 2013 by john wawrow
Chef Jim Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Overrated: Phish (even though I do listen to them) Underrated: Little Feat, The Band, Canned Heat, Grateful Dead (loved mostly by dead heads, hated by most others), and anything Jerry Garcia did outside of the Dead.
zevo Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Over rated/played?Led Zepplin, Aerosmith, Tool. Under rated? Dream Theatre, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden. Tool as being overrated is utter nonsense
Chef Jim Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Thanks to the RIP Ed Schaughnessy thread I will also add Doc Severinsen's Tonight Show Orchestra to the list of underrateds. Tool as being overrated is utter nonsense I have to agree. I've never seen them live but was at this show and it's the closest I've come.
Kevin Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Tool as being overrated is utter nonsense I went with over rated AND over played. Also need to throw Alice in Chains in the under rated category.
Delete This Account Posted May 26, 2013 Author Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) Also need to throw Alice in Chains in the under rated category. no. definitely not on my list. outdated, more like it. jw Edited May 26, 2013 by john wawrow
Justice Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 as noted, got more coming. thinking of releasing the latest Tuesday morning. a few thoughts: Elvis Presley can never be over-rated despite his long, slow, spiral into sloppiness. that said, i would suggest that he was the least interesting and least talented of the Sun Studios' Mount Rushmore rounded out by Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins and Jerry Lee Lewis. now those three could rock. funny, that everyone's debating my pick of Jethro Tull as being over-rated, and yet there is nothing here regarding Joan Jett as being my 10th under-rated artist. not sure if that's a good or a bad thing. from the beginning, Joan established herself as one heck of a rocker in her stint with the Runaways. she was their most talented member, trumping Lita Ford. and her body of work through the decades holds up. it's too bad some -- many? -- dismissed her as a one-trick pony because of the "Jukebox" song. in the end, she's outlasted Chrissie Hynde as a rocker, because Hynde's best days are far behind her and mostly limited to the Pretenders first album, which owed its success far more to James Honeywell Scott's grizzly guitar playing, and how it complemented Hynde's growl. Scott's passing, as well as Farndon's death soon after, took all the guts, glory and fuel out of this group, and most probably cost rock and roll fans a chance to see this band's full potential. (and no, the pretenders don't make my list of over-rated). oh, and anyone suggesting Elton John is "under-rated" has spent far too much time locked in a cold dark cellar without a radio, record, cassette and cd player for 40 years. geez, Elton John, under-rated. he's so "respected" in music circles that they parade him out to do duets with "artists" seeking to improve their reputation. and you know what, i read CREEM Magazine growing up. a wonderful magazine inspired by Mr. Bangs. gotta disagree there. but this is one person's opinion. what Metallica did in leading up and including their "Enter Sandman" album was important in ushering in a post-80s sound. both they and GNR's first album provided the bridge that amalgamated hair-metal and punk to push music forward. what followed hasn't been pretty, but ... cheap trick, sure. as for Natalie Maines, the Dixie Chicks can make a case for being somewhat under-rated, or perhaps, dismissed as a mere "country" group, or "that band that insulted Bush." but their record sales and the critical acclaim derived from their last album removes them from under-rated contention in my opinion. that said, their best album, "Home," is extremely under-rated. as for Maines, haven't picked up her new cd yet. am interested. hope it's better than the other two's debut Courtyard Hounds. that was very underwhelming, coming off as watered-down Sheryl Crow wanabes. even the name of their group seemed forced, jw Don't get me wrong. Elvis has made some great tracks, but to be considered the "King of Rock-N-Roll" makes him overrated, IMO. He wasn't that good.
Delete This Account Posted May 26, 2013 Author Posted May 26, 2013 Don't get me wrong. Elvis has made some great tracks, but to be considered the "King of Rock-N-Roll" makes him overrated, IMO. He wasn't that good. you do make a good case. thing is, his looks, style and voice helped pave the way for a swivel-shaking sound to become palatable to a larger audience searching for a face and voice. he might not deserve the crown, but his influence is importance in establishing the foundation of the music as we know it today. and it's difficult to fault Elvis entirely because anyone who would have had the misfortune of being caught up in that tidal wave would've been crushed by it's uncontrollable and massive wake. he helped start it, so credit to him. jw
zevo Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Thanks to the RIP Ed Schaughnessy thread I will also add Doc Severinsen's Tonight Show Orchestra to the list of underrateds. I have to agree. I've never seen them live but was at this show and it's the closest I've come. Who is that covering?
Chef Jim Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Who is that covering? Umphrey's Mcgee. Might as well add the to the underrated pile. Not underrated as much as unknown. \mm/
Rob's House Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 I know many will disagree, but I think Bruce Springstein is ridiculously overrated. I hear he does a great live show, and who didn't love "Born in the USA", but when I hear his hit songs like "Born to Run" or "Glory Days" come on the radio I feel like I'm listening to Rick Springfield with a grittier voice. As far as Jewel goes, she was a great artist until 2003 when she abandoned her artistic identity for bubble gum pop. If you don't know what I mean listen to "Meant for me" and follow it with "Intuition". In the first song you hear a talented artist singing a song that means something to her; the second is an empty, meaningless, emotionless canned song that might as well have been given to the latest greatest Mickey Mouse Club graduate or American Idol winner. I also agree that Grateful Dead is underrated, often times even by their fans. Sure, not all of their songs are masterpieces, but they've got a lot of gems.
zevo Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Umphrey's Mcgee. Might as well add the to the underrated pile. Not underrated as much as unknown. \mm/ Sound was good....but no one can replicate Maynard James Keenan's pipes
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