1B4IDie Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 #50 was all over the field even had a QB presser. He has to be on DROY watch list. Let's just say the starting Bills QB has the inside slant on OROY. Le'veon BEll Will be competeitio for OROY. What are the Vegas odds on TUel?
Alphadawg7 Posted September 16, 2013 Author Posted September 16, 2013 This thread I started doesn't look so crazy two games in...EJ is the real deal, and when you consider how much time he missed prior to week 1 as a rookie, his start to the season is even more impressive. I fell he will only continue to get better. And Kiko has been as good, if not better, than advertised on this revamped defense! GO BILLS!
OCinBuffalo Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I didn't think this prediction was nuts when it was first posted, and, I don't think it's nuts now. But, let's understand that the chances of this media awarding both to the Bills being slim? That has a lot more to do with their bias than it does the play on the field, or stats. I just don't see how they will bring themselves to vote that way. We would have to win a playoff game, decisively, with both Alonso and Woods/EJ contributing, and even then I don't think they would do it. Yeah, notice I said Woods/EJ. I think that either has an = chance. In fact, if both are hands down better than the rest of the OROY candidates? They will give it to Woods out of spite. They will never forgive us for the EJ disinformation campaign that Buddy and Whaley ran.
1B4IDie Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Reid on 9ers is looking good for DROY. But looking at the Fox and ESPN coverage not to mention the Pepsi Rookie of week site Alonso is definitely on the list. Star from Carolina is probably also up there. I got to say EJ probably remains the favorite for OROY. Unless Austin, Hopkins, or one of the rookie RBs blows up its gonna come down to who has more wins between EJ and Geno. Edited September 16, 2013 by Why So Serious?
Luxy312 Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Reid on 9ers is looking good for DROY. But looking at the Fox and ESPN coverage not to mention the Pepsi Rookie of week site Alonso is definitely on the list. Star from Carolina is probably also up there. I got to say EJ probably remains the favorite for OROY. Unless Austin, Hopkins, or one of the rookie RBs blows up its gonna come down to who has more wins between EJ and Geno. I'm not sure what games you're watching, but it's not even close right now. Geno Smith has completed 53.4% of his passes with 1 TD to 4 INT's. His QBR is a paltry 55.2 and he's taken 9 sacks already. By comparison, EJ has completed 68.2% of his passes with 3 TD's and 1 INT. His QBR is a stellar 95.9 and he's only been sacked 1 time. Geno isn't even in the conversation at this point.
brucethomas34 Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I was remembering this thread yesterday, you could be right! Go Bills
1B4IDie Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I'm not sure what games you're watching, but it's not even close right now. Geno Smith has completed 53.4% of his passes with 1 TD to 4 INT's. His QBR is a paltry 55.2 and he's taken 9 sacks already. By comparison, EJ has completed 68.2% of his passes with 3 TD's and 1 INT. His QBR is a stellar 95.9 and he's only been sacked 1 time. Geno isn't even in the conversation at this point. I'm not sure what thread you're reading. Geno is most assuridly in any pupularity contest, which is what OROY is, purely because he is the starting QB of an NFL team as a rookie but more importantly an NFL team in New York. Its still early.
tennesseeboy Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 The prediction is a lot less nuts now than it was when originally posted. However I think I'll wait a few games before I get too excited. That being said, I can't dispute that both Manuel and Alonso must be considered contenders as of today.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I'm not sure what thread you're reading. Geno is most assuridly in any pupularity contest, which is what OROY is, purely because he is the starting QB of an NFL team as a rookie but more importantly an NFL team in New York. Its still early. I'd be surprised if Geno is still the NYJ starting QB at the end of the season.
KD in CA Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I'm not sure what games you're watching, but it's not even close right now. Geno Smith has completed 53.4% of his passes with 1 TD to 4 INT's. His QBR is a paltry 55.2 and he's taken 9 sacks already. By comparison, EJ has completed 68.2% of his passes with 3 TD's and 1 INT. His QBR is a stellar 95.9 and he's only been sacked 1 time. Geno isn't even in the conversation at this point. I agree but they're both 1-1 and each had a GW drive. That's the 30,000 foot view from places outside of WNY.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I'd be surprised if Geno is still the NYJ starting QB at the end of the season. Hopefully it turns into a circus. Bills beat them this weekend, Geno looks horrible because Pettine is able to confuse him. Rex gets antsy puts in his 3rd stringer because Rex has no patients. Eventually Sanchez comes back and plays and looks like Sanchez, so Rex goes back to Geno....
Leelee Phoenix Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 ROY isn't that much of a popularity contest. The guy with the best stats will usually win, and it helps being on a winning team. Alonso and Manuel are good bets if the Bills can manage to be 8-8 or better.
ndirish1978 Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Hopefully it turns into a circus. Bills beat them this weekend, Geno looks horrible because Pettine is able to confuse him. Rex gets antsy puts in his 3rd stringer because Rex has no patients. Eventually Sanchez comes back and plays and looks like Sanchez, so Rex goes back to Geno.... As a football coach Rex is not qualified to see patients; so it should not surprise us that he has none.
OCinBuffalo Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 As a football coach Rex is not qualified to see patients; so it should not surprise us that he has none. Ah, but he does have clients = the media, especially the Jet Fan Bois that work at ESPN.
bizell Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 nice prognostication, alpha... sucks that everyone had to wade through 3 or 4 pages of people being retards before legitimate discussion of your prediction started
ndirish1978 Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Kiko is playing like a contender. EJ would need to step it up to be out Hopkins in Houston. Woods has an uphill battle, since all of his receptions would also be stats for EJ.
JESSEFEFFER Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) This thread might be worthy of weekly updates as the season progresses. Based on early season events, the chances of this happening have gone up. Some of the rookie contenders have gotten off to slow starts due to injury or poor play while the 3 contending Bills are still amongst the most likely. I'd say the probability of winning one has gone up to 27% and of winning both has doubled from 1/100 to 1/50. Edited September 22, 2013 by JESSEFEFFER
run dat back Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 Really? It would take only a "pessimist" to point out the overwhelming presumptuousness of your claim that we may have not one, but 2 ROYs....in May? These threads are unreal.
JESSEFEFFER Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) These threads are unreal. Hmmm. Puzzling opinion. Anyways, here's a link to one compilation of rookie stats: http://draftseason.c...l-rookie-stats/ Edited September 22, 2013 by JESSEFEFFER
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