Beerball Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22246720/ranking-nfl-qbs-rodgers-brady-peyton-and-brees-are-elites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Sheesh! EJ Manuel and Geno Smith get lumped in the "grizzled" category before either of them takes an NFL snap? Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Sheesh! EJ Manuel and Geno Smith get lumped in the "grizzled" category before either of them takes an NFL snap? Ridiculous. Yes, they have yet to take an NFL snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 vick above dalton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Tannehill over Schaub must be some kind of joke. If he is lucky Tannehill will have the career Schaub has had. At this point RT has proven zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Yes, I really don't get the Tannehill = playoff QB thing. I didn't see it, and the data backs that up. Right now Tannehill isn't even in the top half of the league. QBR has him at #19 http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr That's 5 slots behind Schaub, btw. CBS : QBR :: "how do you feel" : "what do you think". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Yes, they have yet to take an NFL snap. Thank you for clarifying. I was unsure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Tannehill is the new Trent Edwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Gotta love being ranked #32 of 32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) Peyton was far better than Brady last year. Also, Luck is wildly overrated in that ranking. He's the last of the "young guns," in my opinion. Edited May 17, 2013 by ny33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) Yes, I really don't get the Tannehill = playoff QB thing. I didn't see it, and the data backs that up. Right now Tannehill isn't even in the top half of the league. QBR has him at #19 http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr That's 5 slots behind Schaub, btw. CBS : QBR :: "how do you feel" : "what do you think". I just don't get the love for Tannehill. I mean I understand stats don't tell the whole story, but he had very similar stats to Brandon Weedon. Brandon Weedon had pretty much the same situation at WR as Miami did last year, in some ways I would say it was worse in Cleveland. And yet, no one is drooling over Weedon. Edited May 17, 2013 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 It means NOTHING! It's just "filler" sportswriting from guys that have to churn out football articles. Press the "Ignore" button... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Peyton was far better than Brady last year. Also, Luck is wildly overrated in that ranking. He's the last of the "young guns," in my opinion. Luck's easily the best of them in mine. Guy QB'd the team with the worst record in the NFL the previous season to an 11 win season. This with a D that didn't help much (ranked 26th in yds, 21st in points.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Luck's easily the best of them in mine. Guy QB'd the team with the worst record in the NFL the previous season to an 11 win season. This with a D that didn't help much (ranked 26th in yds, 21st in points.) The team tanked, in my opinion, in 2011. RG3 put up insane numbers compared to Luck, from a purely statistical standpoint, and took an injury-riddled team to the playoffs. Indianapolis also had an excellent draft on offense besides Luck, picking up two good TEs, two solid WRs, and a decent RB in Ballard. The draft post-Polian fixed the roster. Luck will be a good QB, but I think RG3 was far more valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 http://www.cbssports...rees-are-elites Not much argument about the "elite" category or the "young guns" category. "The Next Group" can start some argument (Romo? Seriously?) From "In Limbo" on down it's just silly. Cutler, Smith, and Schaub have all shown something and probably deserve to be in whatever group contains Romo. Freeman and Stafford have shown flashes. Bradford and Tannehill have yet to show anything, and to put them above Dalton is just silly, let alone above Cutler, Smith and Schaub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 "The Next Group" can start some argument (Romo? Seriously?) From "In Limbo" on down it's just silly. Cutler, Smith, and Schaub have all shown something and probably deserve to be in whatever group contains Romo. Agree, if you are using Romo as a barometer then the others belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 grizzled - sprinkled or streaked with gray I don't really get the category? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Sheesh! EJ Manuel and Geno Smith get lumped in the "grizzled" category before either of them takes an NFL snap? Ridiculous. No, actually. They "lumped" EJ with Kolb and Geno with Snachez. Continue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Gotta love being ranked #32 of 32. I remember seeing this list last year and they had us around the mid twenties with Fitz. I feel like our QB position is much improved/has potential to be much better than last year. I think they just didn't know where to put the Bills' QB situation. Not enough info to go on. EJ is a rookie, VJax probably won't do anything differently than he has done in the past, and Kolb could potentially be the top guy teams were drooling over a couple years ago if we keep him protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I just don't get the love for Tannehill. I mean I understand stats don't tell the whole story, but he had very similar stats to Brandon Weedon. Brandon Weedon had pretty much the same situation at WR as Miami did last year, in some ways I would say it was worse in Cleveland. And yet, no one is drooling over Weedon. But that's the whole thing: QBR does, attempt, to tell the whole story. It certainly tells a better story than passer rating, or, "whatever I feel". The only thing it doesn't measure: Potential, which is wholly subjective. My opinion that Tannehill won't do much, is just as valid as Dolphin fan's opinion that he will, and equally as biased, for obvious reasons. We'll see who is right, but, neither is a logical argument, and to make a "ranking" on that is ridiculous. It also doesn't measure how many opportunities with the ball their defense gives one QB vs. another. I think that's what I would add. It accounts for down and distance, and drive start, etc. It doesn't account for: this is the 1st possession vs. this is the 15th possession. I would argue that scoring on the 5th drive, is harder than scoring on both the 1st and the 10th. On the first, the D hasn't seen the O's plan yet. On the 10th, they've seen it, but now they aren't fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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