IDBillzFan Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 IRS Chief Miller resigns. Oh, well, I guess that settles that. Probably gets a nice retirement package, full bennies for life. Let's hope it doesn't stop here. Need a full investigation into what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 It's full damage control time.... Regarding the DOJ scandal, Asking schumer to pass the Journalist Shield legislation: Check Regarding Benghazi, releasing the W.H emails: Check Regarding the IRS, forcing the IRS chief to resign: Check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) Just two people..........................................sure. Chris Moody of Yahoo! News has a great story this afternoon about the saga the conservative media watchdogs at MediaTrackers had with the Obama IRS. The long and short of it is that after after waiting for more than a year for IRS to approve his 501©3 application for the group, conservative activist Drew Ryun "determined that Media Trackers would likely never obtain standalone nonprofit status" and so he "tried a new approach," applying as a nonprofit under the name "Greenhouse Solutions" which was "a pre-existing organization that was reaching the end of its determination period." And wouldn't you know it, Moody noted, "the IRS approved Greenhouse Solutions' request for permanent nonprofit status in three weeks": DOCUMENTS: IRS tea-party letters came from DC headquarters, 2 California offices... Edited May 16, 2013 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Just two people..........................................sure. DOCUMENTS: IRS tea-party letters came from DC headquarters, 2 California offices... The fun part? CNN has embarrassed itself again, but, this story is moving to fast for anyone to care. And, nobody cares about CNN, and soon to be, MSNBC, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/15/krauthammer_on_obamas_irs_response_the_absolute_minimum_he_could_have_done.html CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: That was a holding operation. That was the absolute minimum he could have done. He relieves one person, he obviously had to. He had to relieve at least one person. He chose, of course, the acting commissioner but I would have expected more. The other actions he announced are up to now meaningless. Obama and this administration have said a hundred times they're going to hold x, y, or z accountable for all kinds of behavior. In benghazi, you know, regarding a lot of other scandals. He even speaks about Syrian generals are going to be held accountable. It means nothing. And then he says there will be an investigation from the Treasury. Well, that just means the left hand of the government investigating the right hand. He did say he'll cooperate with Congress. But then he has the chutzpah to essentially warn Republicans not to make this into a political event when what we're talking about is the IRS applying political criteria inexcusably unconstitutionally, probably criminally, in deciding who it's going to investigate. So I found this the bare minimum. It will hold him for 12 hours, but no more. (Special Report, May 15, 2013) I say 12 hours is like an eternity to find someone to place the blame on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) So, I don't think Obama ordered the IRS to do what it did, I think it was just a natural extension of policies and tone that he set. 1984 arrived, just a little later. This. He didn't know, because it's beneath him. Like everything except golfing, fundraising, and partying. Nobody needed to be told to do this. They just knew. Singing from the same sheet music. Operating from the same playbook. The hivemind revealed: drones operating in full concert with, yet totally disconnected from the ostensible leadership of the collective. And heaven help you if their honeycomb-dance identifies an enemy in your direction. This is the product of the Long March through the institution of education. Edited May 16, 2013 by Ralonzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Have any of you guys seen some of the details of the pressing the IRS did to some of these groups? These weren't boilerplate questionnaires sent to everyone. These were very specific to the extent that groups were asked their specific relationship to specific people in their area. Add to this that Miller was leaving in June anyway, and you have to be JTSP crazy to think this is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 This. He didn't know, because it's beneath him. Like everything except golfing, fundraising, and partying. Nobody needed to be told to do this. They just knew. Singing from the same sheet music. Operating from the same playbook. The hivemind revealed: drones operating in full concert with, yet totally disconnected from the ostensible leadership of the collective. And heaven help you if their honeycomb-dance identifies an enemy in your direction. This is the product of the Long March through the institution of education. You need to either post more often or consider merging personalities/posters with OC. This matchmaker role is kinda fun, I just have to learn how to get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Have any of you guys seen some of the details of the pressing the IRS did to some of these groups? These weren't boilerplate questionnaires sent to everyone. These were very specific to the extent that groups were asked their specific relationship to specific people in their area. Add to this that Miller was leaving in June anyway, and you have to be JTSP crazy to think this is over. JSTP crazy? If so, this is going nuclear. From what I've seen, it isn't two guys in Cincinnati. At this point they have letters from DC and two locations in CA that prove they were involved. Get rid of this agency and implement a "Fair Tax", and make it unconstitutional to have it be a "value added tax". I have no problem protecting the low earners by rebating them a reasonable amount to offset their sales tax. The Fair Tax eliminates not only the cheats but the CPA's making money for doing what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 This is the product of the Long March through the institution of education. Finest line I've read this week, and I've read just about everything. You need to either post more often or consider merging personalities/posters with OC. I am here to entertain myself, not you. My "personality" is whatever is required today to get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 IRS Chief Miller resigns. Steve Miller was the head of the IRS???? What, Ted Nugent is the Secretary of Defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) Obama’s attempt at damage control laughable Nice try, Mr. President. Feigning anger, firing an unknown bureaucrat and fleeing the podium won’t cut it with voters, or stop the hemorrhaging of the scandals that have spawned a Watergate-like feel around the Obama administration. There was a certain panicky look about the way the president quickly delivered a rare evening White House statement to try to quell the growing outrage over the IRS targeting of Tea Party groups. The move showed how damaging the scandal has become to Obama’s second term and maybe even his presidency. But Obama took no questions and, more importantly, no responsibility for the ugly episode of the federal government abusing its power for political reasons. This was just political theater designed to distance Obama from something that happened on his watch. Obama sounded a lot angrier scolding Republicans for blocking his gun control bill than he did standing at the podium last night in a belated attempt at damage control. Even worse, Obama had the gall to warn any critics in Congress to “treat (the IRS) with the responsibility it deserves and in a way that doesn’t smack of politics or partisan agendas.” In other words, Republicans, don’t use it against him. The problem for Obama is that what happened in the IRS was all about partisan politics. The IRS was harassing conservative groups opposed to Obama’s re-election, and the big question is why any low-level bureaucrat would be engaged in a concerted effort to hurt Obama’s opponents. http://bostonherald...._damage_control Edited May 16, 2013 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 This is what the germans said after WWII... http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/05/16/Sources-IRS-Workers-Did-What-Their-Bosses-Told-Them In case anyone here didn't know, thanks to obamacare the IRS will be taking over your healthcare in the near future. What a nightmare. I see the political cartoons here, but this IRS scandal is not even the least bit funny to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Obama's Scandals: Making The Case For Small-Government Conservatism Better Than Mitt Romney Ever Did? Abuse of Power: Flashback: President Obama Targeted Gibson Guitars, Boeing on Ideological Grounds. President Obama in 2009: “Don’t think we’re not keeping score, brother.” ..........................So are we, Barry. So are we. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/16/us/politics/new-controversies-may-undermine-obama.html?pagewanted=2&smid=tw-share&_r=0 Obama, tired of being hindered, wants to "go Bullworth". Yet Mr. Obama also expresses exasperation. In private, he has talked longingly of “going Bulworth,” a reference to a little-remembered 1998 Warren Beatty movie about a senator who risked it all to say what he really thought. Careful, Mr. President. Saying what you really think might get you audited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Obama’s attempt at damage control laughable Nice try, Mr. President. Feigning anger, firing an unknown bureaucrat and fleeing the podium won’t cut it with voters, or stop the hemorrhaging of the scandals that have spawned a Watergate-like feel around the Obama administration. There was a certain panicky look about the way the president quickly delivered a rare evening White House statement to try to quell the growing outrage over the IRS targeting of Tea Party groups. The move showed how damaging the scandal has become to Obama’s second term and maybe even his presidency. But Obama took no questions and, more importantly, no responsibility for the ugly episode of the federal government abusing its power for political reasons. This was just political theater designed to distance Obama from something that happened on his watch. Obama sounded a lot angrier scolding Republicans for blocking his gun control bill than he did standing at the podium last night in a belated attempt at damage control. Even worse, Obama had the gall to warn any critics in Congress to “treat (the IRS) with the responsibility it deserves and in a way that doesn’t smack of politics or partisan agendas.” In other words, Republicans, don’t use it against him. The problem for Obama is that what happened in the IRS was all about partisan politics. The IRS was harassing conservative groups opposed to Obama’s re-election, and the big question is why any low-level bureaucrat would be engaged in a concerted effort to hurt Obama’s opponents. http://bostonherald...._damage_control "They'll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices" - BO 5/5/2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Careful, Mr. President. Saying what you really think might get you audited. You think Obama's a truther? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) http://washingtonexaminer.com/report-irs-denied-tax-exempt-status-to-pro-lifers-on-behalf-of-planned-parenthood/article/2529750 IRS officials refused to grant tax exempt status to two pro-life organizations because of their position on the abortion issue, according to a non-profit law firm, which said that one group was pressured not to protest a pro-choice organization that endorsed President Obama during the last election. “In one case, the IRS withheld approval of an application for tax exempt status for Coalition for Life of Iowa. In a phone call to Coalition for Life of Iowa leaders on June 6, 2009, the IRS agent ‘Ms. Richards’ told the group to send a letter to the IRS with the entire board’s signatures stating that, under perjury of the law, they do not picket/protest or organize groups to picket or protest outside of Planned Parenthood,” the Thomas More Society announced today. “Once the IRS received this letter, their application would be approved.” Planned Parenthood endorsed Obama in 2008 and 2012. The IRS also pressured another pro-life group about its religious activities. “The IRS withheld approval of an application for charitable tax-exempt recognition of Christian Voices for Life, questioning the group’s involvement with ’40 Days for Life’ and ‘Life Chain’ events,” according to the law firm. “The Fort Bend County, Texas, organization was subjected to repeated and lengthy unconstitutional requests for information about the viewpoint and content of its educational communications, volunteer prayer vigils, and other protected activities Edited May 16, 2013 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 You think Obama's a truther? Don't think so. But he's probably a birther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 http://washingtonexa...article/2529750 IRS officials refused to grant tax exempt status to two pro-life organizations because of their position on the abortion issue, according to a non-profit law firm, which said that one group was pressured not to protest a pro-choice organization that endorsed President Obama during the last election. “In one case, the IRS withheld approval of an application for tax exempt status for Coalition for Life of Iowa. In a phone call to Coalition for Life of Iowa leaders on June 6, 2009, the IRS agent ‘Ms. Richards’ told the group to send a letter to the IRS with the entire board’s signatures stating that, under perjury of the law, they do not picket/protest or organize groups to picket or protest outside of Planned Parenthood,” the Thomas More Society announced today. “Once the IRS received this letter, their application would be approved.” I hope this is a case of whiny opportunists taking advantage of a controversy to make **** up. Because while I am manifestly pro-choice...denying someone NPO status because they're against another NPO is a massive load of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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