Chef Jim Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yeah but since when did something over budget become a problem? Budget? What budget? No it won't just be over budget, the whole thing blows up and then the gov't will have to bail out the insurance companies. This is so !@#$ed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 No it won't just be over budget, the whole thing blows up and then the gov't will have to bail out the insurance companies. This is so !@#$ed up. The government has single-handedly messed with the very tenets of what insurance is. Mortality and Morbidity Tables are insurance companies "Bibles". They have changed the complexion as to who will be purchasing insurance, thus messing up the numbers that premiums are based on. This a very serious calamity that we are looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 FIVE REASONS the IRS Scandal won’t go away. IRS SCANDAL UPDATE: Emails: IRS official said Lerner threw Cincinnati office under the bus. An IRS official blasted Lois Lerner for her attempt to blame the agency’s targeting scandal on low-level employees in Cincinnati, according to newly released emails. “Cincinnati wasn’t publicly ‘thrown under the bus’ (but) instead was hit by a convoy of Mack trucks,” wrote Cindy Thomas, former director of the IRS exempt organizations office in Cincinnati, in a May 10, 2013 email to Lerner obtained by the House Ways and Means Committee. Thomas wrote the email on the very day that the IRS targeting scandal broke when Lerner, a senior agency official based in Washington, D.C., admitted that her exempt organizations division engaged in improper targeting of conservative groups. Lerner initially claimed that the agency’s Cincinatti office was solely responsible for the practice. The New York Times went to bat for the administration, characterizing the Cincinatti office as a “backwater” filled with “low-level employees.” But Thomas wasn’t having it. “As you can imagine, employees and managers (in the Cincinnati tax-exempt division) are furious,” Thomas wrote to Lerner. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 USA Today: Scant Evidence of Fixes at IRS After Scandal: Cincinnati Enquirer: Evidence of post-scandal fixes at IRS remains scant: Tax-exempt status of tea party was targeted. FISCAL TIMES: Why Your Tax Returns Aren’t Safe with the IRS. The bureaucracy is a one-party state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 IRS SCANDAL UPDATE: William Wilkins, IRS Chief Counsel, Testifies on Targeting of Tea-Party Groups. Behind the scenes and nearly six months after the scandal first made headlines, the House Oversight Committee is quietly continuing its investigation of the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of tea-party groups. Since May, congressional investigators have interviewed over 30 witnesses and examined thousands of pages of documents. The latest official called to testify before committee investigators is an important one: IRS chief counsel William Wilkins. Wilkins is one of just two political appointees at the IRS, a generous donor to Democratic candidates and causes, and once represented Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ. Evidence of his involvement in the targeting would spell trouble for the White House and bring renewed focus to a scandal that has largely receded from public consciousness. The Oversight Committee has furnished none, to date, but it is expressing gross dissatisfaction with Wilkins’s testimony and, in a letter sent to him on Wednesday, offering him the opportunity to amend it. “In your testimony, you stated ‘I don’t recall’ a staggering 80 times in full or partial response to the Committee’s questions,” committee chairman Darrell Issa and Ohio representative Jim Jordan wrote. “Your failure to recollect important aspects of the Committee’s investigation suggests either a deliberate attempt to obfuscate your involvement in this matter or gross incompetence on your part.” The most pertinent subject on which Wilkins’s memory failed him was the nature of his communications with Treasury Department officials: in particular, whether he discussed the applications of tea-party groups with anybody at the Treasury Department, whether he discussed with Treasury Department officials regulatory guidance for 501©(4) entities engaged in political activities, and whether he discussed with them the inspector general’s report that blew the lid off of the targeting scandal in mid May. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 The smooth well-oiled machine, that we know as the Internal Revenue Service, now focuses its expertise on administering the precisely drawn and effortlessly rolled out Affordable Care Act. Sail on, Oh Ship of State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Never fear. By the time Congress gets around to wrapping this up, the executive king will outlaw political speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 (edited) Never fear. By the time Congress gets around to wrapping this up, the executive king will outlaw political speech. Ya know? The "king" thing used to seem like hyperbole. But, given the movement towards Feudalism, that has become obvious over the last year? King isn't that far off. A king has vassals. The vassals agree to defend the King and assert his power, and in return, they are granted stuff. Obama has: unions, much of Wall Street, Hollywood, some of Silicon Valley, and ALL of Academia. We are rapidly departing from "constituents" and heading towards: vassals. If this unholy alliance remains in place, in the end we will ALL be serfs. Our job is to expose these people for the phony ass nonsense brokers they are. So let's go out there and fight the good fight, knock on doors, make those calls, organize ourselves into an unstoppable wall of... Oh... too late...don't need us...better call the printers...because? OBAMACARE! :lol: :lol: :lol: "uhhh Hello? Hey um dude? We won't be needing that hyperbole after all. Yeah, turns out there's no room for it. Nah...Just cancel the order. Yeah. This Obamcare thing has taken up the entire space. Yeah...well maybe next time. I'm sure we're going to need you whenever Immigration Reform comes around." Edited November 30, 2013 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 And AGAIN the IRS goes after those who criticize this WH...this time an outspoken Obamacare critic AND the cancer patient he helped. Dateline what else...? Chicago. CHICAGO - Chicago insurance broker and ObamaCare critic C. Steven Tucker happened to see a cancer patient tell Fox News' Megyn Kelly about losing his health care insurance policy one afternoon a few weeks ago. Tucker looked up the South Carolina resident on Facebook and offered help him find health care coverage immediately so his badly-needed cancer treatments could continue. Tucker and cancer patient Bill Elliott connected and Tucker was able to find Elliott the help he needed. Elliott publicly thanked Tucker for his life-saving assistance, but little did either know they would soon be fighting another battle - this one with the Internal Revenue Service. Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving, both Tucker and Elliott received official notifications that they were being audited by the Internal Revenue Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 30, 2013 Author Share Posted November 30, 2013 No dissent by "the people" is allowed...........just who do we think we are ? New IRS Rules Stir Debate on Role of Advocacy Groups in Politics The IRS Thumb on the Scale Issa Accuses Obama IRS Appointee of 'Deliberate' Distortion, 'Gross Incompetence' Lose Insurance Under Obamacare, Speak Up, IRS Audits You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 Open Season on the Tea Partyby Stan Veuger In the 2010 midterm elections, the tea party delivered the president its famous "shellacking." Riding a wave of discontent over his health care law and out-of-control spending the movement took back control of the House of Representatives. In the 2012 presidential election, the movement's impact seemed more subdued, and President Obama won re-election. One of the reasons why this may have happened became widely known only after the election: the IRS had singled out tea party and other conservative groups for special treatment when they applied for tax-exempt status, leading to costly delays and the elimination of part of the Republican Party's ground game. After initial claims that low-level employees in the IRS' Cincinnati office had been solely responsible for this targeting were shown to be false, two acting commissioners of the IRS, Steven Miller and Danny Werfel, and the head of its section on tax-exempt organizations, Lois Lerner, were forced to resign. In the aftermath of the revelations, President Obama referred to the IRS' activities as "outrageous," claimed that had been unaware, and called for accountability, "so that such conduct never happens again." That was then. This Tuesday, the administration decided that instead of making sure the 2014 midterm elections will not be tainted by similar restrictions on the activities of 501©4 organizations, it was going to legalize and institutionalize the IRS' practices. I guess that's one way to do it. British comedian Harry Enfield first suggested this strategy in a skit about police officers in Amsterdam, a city well known for its lax attitude toward the consumption, possession and sale of soft drugs. In the skit, one of the Dutch policy officers explains that burglary used to be a major problem in Amsterdam, but then it was legalized, and the problem was solved. http://www.usnews.co...ea-party-groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 COMPETENCE: Inspector General: IRS Is Seven Years Past Statutory Deadline for Providing Online Account Access to Taxpayers. Legal deadlines are for the little people. IRS SCANDAL UPDATE: FBI Hiding Docs In IRS Tea Party Investigation, Pols Say. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 COMPETENCE: Inspector General: IRS Is Seven Years Past Statutory Deadline for Providing Online Account Access to Taxpayers. Legal deadlines are for the little people. IRS SCANDAL UPDATE: FBI Hiding Docs In IRS Tea Party Investigation, Pols Say. The website was operational by the end of the statutory period. You just won't have access to it until the IRS deems you worthy. In fact, just because you said something, they're going to begin the auditing process of your tax returns for the past 34 years to see if you should be deemed worthy. Please have all of your records and receipts ready by 5pm, B-Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 COMPETENCE: Inspector General: IRS Is Seven Years Past Statutory Deadline for Providing Online Account Access to Taxpayers. Legal deadlines are for the little people. I'm actually happy about that. I'd rather have my NSA dossier online and exposed to hackers than my IRS file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 IRS SCANDAL UPDATE: FBI Hiding Docs In IRS Tea Party Investigation, Pols Say Devils advocate but it is still common sense. The FBI is still investigating this issue and therefore they should not turn over any documents yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 LOL.............it's tough to keep all those stories straight, isn't it Mr. President ? President Obama: That IRS Scandal I Was Outraged About Is No Big Deal. A leading advocate for groups targeted by the Obama administration’s Internal Revenue Service is lambasting the president for his sudden reversal of tone over the IRS audit scandal. When the IRS scandal first reached the public eye, President Obama expressed anger and outrage at the IRS’ targeting of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status. “If in fact IRS personnel engaged in the kind of practices that have been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that’s outrageous. And there’s no place for it,” Obama said in May. “Americans have a right to be angry about it, and I’m angry about it,” Obama added days later when he announced the resignation of acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller, due to the controversy, days later. Thursday night however, Obama was more frustrated with the people who expressed outrage at the targeting during an interview with MSNBC host Chris Matthews. “If, on the other hand, you’ve got an office in Cincinnati, in the IRS office that — I think, for bureaucratic reasons, is trying to streamline what is a difficult law to interpret about whether a nonprofit is actually a political organization deserves a tax exempt agency. And they’ve got a list, and suddenly everybody’s outraged,” Obama said, going on to express dismay that even “so-called progressives” were “outraged at the possibility” of targeting. “I love that quote,” ACLJ Senior Counsel David French, said, “because one of the people who was outraged, and properly so, was the President of the United States, the same person who made that statement. The same person who went on camera and proclaimed loud and clearly that what the IRS did was completely and totally unacceptable. He directed Eric Holder’s Department of Justice to begin an investigation. So there was a point in time when the President of the United States was outraged. I think that that point in time ended when it became clear that the initial spin — of just a few low level employees in Cincinnati — was completely false.” Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/06/aclj-obama-was-one-of-the-outraged-about-targeting-before-he-wasnt/#ixzz2mnyonvGs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 LOL.............it's tough to keep all those stories straight, isn't it Mr. President ? I guess someone other than gatorman DID see that interview. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 “I love that quote,” ACLJ Senior Counsel David French, said, “because one of the people who was outraged, and properly so, was the President of the United States, the same person who made that statement. The same person who went on camera and proclaimed loud and clearly that what the IRS did was completely and totally unacceptable. He directed Eric Holder’s Department of Justice to begin an investigation. So there was a point in time when the President of the United States was outraged. I think that that point in time ended when it became clear that the initial spin — of just a few low level employees in Cincinnati — was completely false.” This guy simply misunderstood the nuanced statement that the President was making about all the calculus he was doing. Besides, Romney has a horse and Christie is fat. Have you guys seen the latest Miley Cyrus stunt?!? Look, shiny object! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 This guy simply misunderstood the nuanced statement that the President was making about all the calculus he was doing. Besides, Romney has a horse and Christie is fat. Have you guys seen the latest Miley Cyrus stunt?!? Look, shiny object! Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! No, I didn't. You got a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! No, I didn't. You got a link? Absolutely: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/07/miley-cyrus-jingle-ball_n_4404420.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 (I was actually kidding about Miley, but the girl never fails to deliver!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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