Dennis in NC Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 While we are on the topic of Bills winning & losing... I was digitizing some old cassette tapes and came across a 1984 show with Kay Stephenson talking about how his 0-10 Bills lost the Cleveland game on a fluky late play. DB Brian Carpenter said something to the effect of "I guess God was not ready for the Bills to win this week". Of course, that shabby season led to the top pick Bruce Smith.
thewildrabbit Posted May 9, 2013 Author Posted May 9, 2013 While we are on the topic of Bills winning & losing... I was digitizing some old cassette tapes and came across a 1984 show with Kay Stephenson talking about how his 0-10 Bills lost the Cleveland game on a fluky late play. DB Brian Carpenter said something to the effect of "I guess God was not ready for the Bills to win this week". Of course, that shabby season led to the top pick Bruce Smith. Silver linings... I think fans will be more tolerant this season with a rookie HC & perhaps rookie QB then they have in the past. Jadeveon Clowney DE Teddy Bridgewater QB Johnny Manziel QB Anthony Barr DE AJ McCarron and the list for QB's goes on...next years QB class is way better, and WalterFootball.com already has the Bills drafting at #3. With Seattle and Denver in the SB. With the Seahawks getting the Lombardi Trophy. http://walterfootball.com/draft2014_1.php want more? http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2013/5/6/4304044/2014-nfl-draft-quarterbacks-teddy-bridgewater-tajh-boyd
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) Silver linings... I think fans will be more tolerant this season with a rookie HC & perhaps rookie QB then they have in the past. Jadeveon Clowney DE Teddy Bridgewater QB Johnny Manziel QB Anthony Barr DE AJ McCarron and the list for QB's goes on...next years QB class is way better, and WalterFootball.com already has the Bills drafting at #3. With Seattle and Denver in the SB. With the Seahawks getting the Lombardi Trophy. http://walterfootbal...draft2014_1.php want more? http://www.sbnation....water-tajh-boyd Would the Bills really draft a QB next year though after EJ3 only being here for 1 season? CBF Edited May 9, 2013 by Canadian_Bills_Fan
thewildrabbit Posted May 10, 2013 Author Posted May 10, 2013 Would the Bills really draft a QB next year though after EJ3 only being here for 1 season? CBF I was thinking the Bills would draft DE Jadeveon Clowney next year. Its just a very rich draft for QB's in 2014, unlike this year However, I would say everything depends on how these three QB's play this year. If they all play very poorly at least the bills would be in position to draft a starter next year, that doesn't need much development.
Astrobot Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 When I was out in Vegas with DraftTek, I bet $20 that the Bills would win the AFC the morning of Day 1 before the Bills drafted EJ. I got 40-1 at Caesar's Palace.
prissythecat Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 Found this article, thought some of you would like to offer an opinion on it. The complete schedule and odds are with the link. "We’re 17 weeks away from the kickoff of the NFL regular season, but the games have already begun in Las Vegas." "The Patriots are not an underdog in any game, but three of their games opened pick 'em." http://linemakers.sp...ts-books-cantor Las Vegas odds are giving the Buffalo Bills 3 wins this year, and a pickem against the Dolphins... Week one, -7 New England at Buffalo Week two,- 1 Carolina at Buffalo Week three, Buffalo at NY Jets -3.5 Week four, -4 Baltimore at Buffalo Week five, Buffalo at Cleveland -1.5 Week six, -2.5 Cincinnati at Buffalo Week seven, Buffalo at Miami -4 Week eight, Buffalo at New Orleans -6.5 Week nine, Kansas at Buffalo -1.5 Week ten, Buffalo at Pittsburgh -7 Week eleven, New York Jets at Buffalo -1.5 Week twelve, bye week Week thirteen, -3 Atlanta vs Buffalo in Toronto Week fourteen, Buffalo at Tampa Bay -3 Week fifteen, -1 Buffalo at Jacksonville Week sixteen, Miami at Buffalo pickem Week seventeen, Buffalo at New England Wins, KC, Jets,Jags and maybe Fins. Although, I don't see the Chiefs as a pushover anymore, not with Andy Reid as HC Obviously these odds change as teams win or lose throughout the season. You've misinterpreted the whole article. The article gives the Vegas lines for all NFL regular seasons games. That does not translate to season win totals. Right now, Cantor sportsbook has the Bills at 6 1/2 wins. This is actually about right imo. link to season win totals from Cantor
Thunderstealer Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 I think the 2013 Bills will be a lot like last years Rams. Lots of new guys lots of promise with lots of heartache
benderbender Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 I'd rather teams underestimate us than over game plan
BuffOrange Posted May 14, 2013 Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) You are mostly correct, but do you really believe a lline of 7 would encourage only 50% of bettors to back the Patriots? I believe 90% of bettors would bet New England at 7 (which isn't the same as saying 90% of the money will be on New England). So it's slightly more complicated than what you're saying. Because not all bets are equal. If 9 Pats fans each plunk down $10 on the Pats -7, but I put down $100 on the Bills +7, 90% of the bets are on the Pats, but 53% of the money is on the Bills. For what it's worth, from what I've heard, Vegas is willing to take a stand some of the time -- i.e., bet against the majority of the betting public because they think they're smarter than the betting public. And they're almost always right! In any case, very few individual games are very close to 50% money wagered on each side. I don't know if Walter's sources are reliable, but he always posts the % money bet on one side in his weekly picks. If his numbers are accurate, almost every game has at least 60% bet on one side, and several games a week are over 80% on one side. Vegas makes their money via the big picture -- they can afford to take a loss on a given game or a given Super Bowl winner (1999 Rams, e.g.), they just need to offset those losses with wins. Since every bet carries a vig of some sort, they make money in the long run as long as the public doesn't win all the time. And since Vegas is almost always smarter than the public, they win a lot more than they lose. Thank you both for sparing one of my six per year rants against the "Vegas wants half the bets on X" nonsense. Well more than half the bets are on road favorites every single week (aka the "Bob Matthews square picks"). Edited May 14, 2013 by BuffOrange
Homey D. Clown Posted May 15, 2013 Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) Really not surprising(the vegas odds), and certainly not upsetting in any way, but this team could very well go 8-8, or 4-12, but to assume anything less or more than that is purely speculation given the changes made to the QB position and coaching staff. Kolb could stay healthy and produce like he did before he went down in AZ, or he could stink it up ushering in our new rookie, and we let him grow with the new coaching staff. That just feels a lot like 4-12, 5-11 to me, but I feel very strongly about the defense really showing the most improvement, just not enough to will the team to any wins though. Edited May 15, 2013 by Homey D. Clown
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