San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Erie County ..no problem at all. NYS ... no !@#$ing way. I live in Rochester so Erie county can do what they want but I don't want any of my money going to a stadium, ANY stadium. And I don't blame you at all. At this point the discussion usually shifts to to what degree the state has subsidized pro sports venues in the Greater NYC area and the issue of fairness to all state residents, the distribution of tax burden and disbursement of tax revenues throughout the state, etc.
NoSaint Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 No offense, but visitors to NO don't care about the condition of the airport or the riverfront! generally, i agree, but in the case of the super bowl - there are three locations that pretty close to 100% of attendees see: the airport, the stadium, and the venue that hosts the nfl entertainment (concerts, tv shows etc...) which in new orleans is the river front. now 2 of the 3 of those have announced renovation plans with an end date of "by 2018" and i think the stadium will likely be added for the trifecta. with it being the tricentennial celebrations in new orleans i think the city is going to push hard to make this event the crown jewel of the year. miami not getting their funds, coupled with new orleans projects getting approved bit by bit... i like the odds of it being hosted here...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000167036/article/could-miami-dolphins-move-after-failed-stadium-bill Hmmm. L.A. dolphins...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/n...ed-stadium-bill Hmmm. L.A. dolphins... I doubt it will happen, but that would be great. Another team in LA that I could truly hate (it's still pretty fun to hate a team and root for them to lose). Plus the pall and all the questions that will arise out of all of this, until it is settled, which doesn't seem soon, is nice to have on a place like Miami instead of Buffalo all the time. This is just great all around.
MarkyMannn Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 Erie County ..no problem at all. NYS ... no !@#$ing way. I live in Rochester so Erie county can do what they want but I don't want any of my money going to a stadium, ANY stadium. Well I live in Erie County, so put the new stadium in Niagara county. Or NF, Canada. I don't care I just pay way TOO much in taxes now
KD in CA Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/n...ed-stadium-bill Hmmm. L.A. dolphins... What, is LA going to have nine teams? Minny, JAX, Dolphins, Bills, etc. How many times can teams use this same obvious bluff?
Kelly the Dog Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 What, is LA going to have nine teams? Minny, JAX, Dolphins, Bills, etc. How many times can teams use this same obvious bluff? I have long held the theory that the NFL has no intention of putting a team in LA, and they make a ton more money for their other franchises by using LA as ploy to keep teams in their cities.
nucci Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 I have long held the theory that the NFL has no intention of putting a team in LA, and they make a ton more money for their other franchises by using LA as ploy to keep teams in their cities. Seems to be the case. Vikings stayed and I don't see the Dolphins going anywhere. They just won't get any more SBs for a while.
KD in CA Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 I have long held the theory that the NFL has no intention of putting a team in LA, and they make a ton more money for their other franchises by using LA as ploy to keep teams in their cities. I like it. It wouldn't surprise me a bit.
dave mcbride Posted May 6, 2013 Posted May 6, 2013 The Dolphins are not moving anywhere. They're a signature franchise (a product of being great in the sport's true golden era, the 1970s).
nucci Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 The Dolphins are not moving anywhere. They're a signature franchise (a product of being great in the sport's true golden era, the 1970s). You mean like the Oakland Raiders?
Nanker Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 And the Cleveland Ravens, St Louis Cardinals, Los Angeles Rams, Houston Titans, and Baltimore Colts.
Wayne Cubed Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 And the Cleveland Ravens, St Louis Cardinals, Los Angeles Rams, Houston Titans, and Baltimore Colts. and before that the Chicago Cardinals
Dorkington Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) If the Dolphins move to LA, I hope the NFL takes the opportunity to do a little realignment. I'd kind of like to see the Bills, Browns, Bengals and Steelers in one division. Edit: AFC East: Jaguars Jets Patriots Ravens AFC North: Bengals Bills Browns Steelers AFC South: Chiefs Colts Texans Titans AFC West: Broncos Chargers Dolphins Raiders Eh, probably would never happen. Edited May 7, 2013 by Dorkington
nucci Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 If the Dolphins move to LA, I hope the NFL takes the opportunity to do a little realignment. I'd kind of like to see the Bills, Browns, Bengals and Steelers in one division. Something similar was offered at the last realignment but turned down. Ralph likes having Miami and New York in the division.
Dorkington Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Something similar was offered at the last realignment but turned down. Ralph likes having Miami and New York in the division. Yeah, and the other changes that'd be necessary would be fought against too. I was just looking at the NFC for "realignment" options, and that would be tough as well. People like their historic rivalries.
nucci Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Yeah, and the other changes that'd be necessary would be fought against too. I was just looking at the NFC for "realignment" options, and that would be tough as well. People like their historic rivalries. Agree but Steelers and Browns would be big games right away. Plus easier to travel for fans.
KD in CA Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Agree but Steelers and Browns would be big games right away. Plus easier to travel for fans. Agreed. I wouldn't miss the current division rivals at all. A rust belt division would be terrific -- fans would love it.
Kelly the Dog Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Agreed. I wouldn't miss the current division rivals at all. A rust belt division would be terrific -- fans would love it. Yeah. The Bills Miami rivalry was one of the better ones although from Miamis POV their arch rival was the Jets. But that bills dolphins rivalry has lost almost all of its luster. Ralph is really holding onto that in a much more nostalgic way than realistic way.
KD in CA Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Yeah. The Bills Miami rivalry was one of the better ones although from Miamis POV their arch rival was the Jets. But that bills dolphins rivalry has lost almost all of its luster. Ralph is really holding onto that in a much more nostalgic way than realistic way. That's my take too. I think they are all lame rivalries. Miami: great years ago but died shortly after Kelly/Marino retired and both teams entered an endless purgatory of suckitude. Four playoff games, but last one was 15 years ago. Jets -- This series has usually featured one team being way better than the other (early '90s), or both teams being horrible. One playoff game; 30 years ago. Pats - Same as above expect we've been Brady's B word for the last ten years. I wouldn't miss that. One playoff game; 50 years ago.
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