Bills trade Kelvin Shephard

[HankBulloughMellencamp]

Shep is an decent MLB.... When he was actually in the game instead of that scheitty nickel he was fairly good at hitting the hole and slowing down the running game.

 

In my opinion, to say or imply that Kelvin Sheppard is a capable/decent MLB is to basically say "I really never focused on him." With a lot of NFL work now on tape, the guy has made almost no plays of significance.

 

Last sunday, I watched the replay of the Bills-Vikes tilt. In just a few plays, I came away quite impressed with what I saw out of Arthur Moats, who was filling in for Kiko. He took on and shed blockers, he sniffed out and disrupted a screen play, and looked quick flowing to the plays that went toward the sideline.

 

So low and behold, Sunday Night Football brought us the Colts visiting the Giants. And for a time, I keyed in on #52 Sheppard, who saw some early snaps with the 1's. He was as plodding and as invisible as he ever looked for the 1.5 years he started for our beloved Bills. One play in particular sums him up ... a sweep to the defense's right, Sheppard, playing basically LILB, flows over unblocked, and is able to meet the RB Wilson about three yards upfield, but does not wrap/bring him down, and Wilson squirts loose for about five more yards.

 

Remember when Poz took the money and went down to play in Jax, and lots of people rationalized his loss by saying "aah, he made the majority of his tackes after ~7 yard gains anyways"? Well, I think it is fair to say that Paul Poszluzny was/is fifty times the NFL linebacker that Sheppard has proven to be.

 

If #52 starts for the Colts for any length of time, I will be shocked, but I doubt he will produce much. And if he gets Maybin-ed on cut-down day, I will not be very surprised at all. And regardless of what he does for Indy, any play that Jerry Hughes makes for Buffalo in 2013 will be a bonus, because getting Shepp off our roster is a perfect example of addition by subtraction. The move really gave me hope that Marrone and Pettine might actually know what the hell they are doing.

Edited August 24, 2013 by HankBulloughMellencamp

[Alaska Darin]

And regardless of what he does for Indy, any play that Jerry Hughes makes for Buffalo in 2013 will be a bonus, because getting Shepp off our roster is a perfect example of addition by subtraction. The move really gave me hope that Marrone and Pettine might actually know what the hell they are doing.

100% concur.

[dave mcbride]

 

 

In my opinion, to say or imply that Kelvin Sheppard is a capable/decent MLB is to basically say "I really never focused on him." With a lot of NFL work now on tape, the guy has made almost no plays of significance.

 

Last sunday, I watched the replay of the Bills-Vikes tilt. In just a few plays, I came away quite impressed with what I saw out of Arthur Moats, who was filling in for Kiko. He took on and shed blockers, he sniffed out and disrupted a screen play, and looked quick flowing to the plays that went toward the sideline.

 

So low and behold, Sunday Night Football brought us the Colts visiting the Giants. And for a time, I keyed in on #52 Sheppard, who saw some early snaps with the 1's. He was as plodding and as invisible as he ever looked for the 1.5 years he started for our beloved Bills. One play in particular sums him up ... a sweep to the defense's right, Sheppard, playing basically LILB, flows over unblocked, and is able to meet the RB Wilson about three yards upfield, but does not wrap/bring him down, and Wilson squirts loose for about five more yards.

 

Remember when Poz took the money and went down to play in Jax, and lots of people rationalized his loss by saying "aah, he made the majority of his tackes after ~7 yard gains anyways"? Well, I think it is fair to say that Paul Poszluzny was/is fifty times the NFL linebacker that Sheppard has proven to be.

 

If #52 starts for the Colts for any length of time, I will be shocked, but I doubt he will produce much. And if he gets Maybin-ed on cut-down day, I will not be very surprised at all. And regardless of what he does for Indy, any play that Jerry Hughes makes for Buffalo in 2013 will be a bonus, because getting Shepp off our roster is a perfect example of addition by subtraction. The move really gave me hope that Marrone and Pettine might actually know what the hell they are doing.

 

Good post.

[paupmvp1995]

In my opinion, to say or imply that Kelvin Sheppard is a capable/decent MLB is to basically say "I really never focused on him." With a lot of NFL work now on tape, the guy has made almost no plays of significance.

 

Last sunday, I watched the replay of the Bills-Vikes tilt. In just a few plays, I came away quite impressed with what I saw out of Arthur Moats, who was filling in for Kiko. He took on and shed blockers, he sniffed out and disrupted a screen play, and looked quick flowing to the plays that went toward the sideline.

 

So low and behold, Sunday Night Football brought us the Colts visiting the Giants. And for a time, I keyed in on #52 Sheppard, who saw some early snaps with the 1's. He was as plodding and as invisible as he ever looked for the 1.5 years he started for our beloved Bills. One play in particular sums him up ... a sweep to the defense's right, Sheppard, playing basically LILB, flows over unblocked, and is able to meet the RB Wilson about three yards upfield, but does not wrap/bring him down, and Wilson squirts loose for about five more yards.

 

Remember when Poz took the money and went down to play in Jax, and lots of people rationalized his loss by saying "aah, he made the majority of his tackes after ~7 yard gains anyways"? Well, I think it is fair to say that Paul Poszluzny was/is fifty times the NFL linebacker that Sheppard has proven to be.

 

If #52 starts for the Colts for any length of time, I will be shocked, but I doubt he will produce much. And if he gets Maybin-ed on cut-down day, I will not be very surprised at all. And regardless of what he does for Indy, any play that Jerry Hughes makes for Buffalo in 2013 will be a bonus, because getting Shepp off our roster is a perfect example of addition by subtraction. The move really gave me hope that Marrone and Pettine might actually know what the hell they are doing.

My friend ur observations on Sheppard and the trade show you understand the game of football quite well. I was ecstatic when we got rid of Sheppard. He does not have the explosiveness, athleticism or instincts to play linebacker in the NFL. Anyone who says otherwise was not paying attention to his game the past two seasons. Hughes will be a stud for us like he was at TCU.

[Doc]

In my opinion, to say or imply that Kelvin Sheppard is a capable/decent MLB is to basically say "I really never focused on him." With a lot of NFL work now on tape, the guy has made almost no plays of significance.

 

Last sunday, I watched the replay of the Bills-Vikes tilt. In just a few plays, I came away quite impressed with what I saw out of Arthur Moats, who was filling in for Kiko. He took on and shed blockers, he sniffed out and disrupted a screen play, and looked quick flowing to the plays that went toward the sideline.

 

So low and behold, Sunday Night Football brought us the Colts visiting the Giants. And for a time, I keyed in on #52 Sheppard, who saw some early snaps with the 1's. He was as plodding and as invisible as he ever looked for the 1.5 years he started for our beloved Bills. One play in particular sums him up ... a sweep to the defense's right, Sheppard, playing basically LILB, flows over unblocked, and is able to meet the RB Wilson about three yards upfield, but does not wrap/bring him down, and Wilson squirts loose for about five more yards.

 

Remember when Poz took the money and went down to play in Jax, and lots of people rationalized his loss by saying "aah, he made the majority of his tackes after ~7 yard gains anyways"? Well, I think it is fair to say that Paul Poszluzny was/is fifty times the NFL linebacker that Sheppard has proven to be.

 

If #52 starts for the Colts for any length of time, I will be shocked, but I doubt he will produce much. And if he gets Maybin-ed on cut-down day, I will not be very surprised at all. And regardless of what he does for Indy, any play that Jerry Hughes makes for Buffalo in 2013 will be a bonus, because getting Shepp off our roster is a perfect example of addition by subtraction. The move really gave me hope that Marrone and Pettine might actually know what the hell they are doing.

Hughes is gravy because Sheppard was going to be cut. Great trade on the Bills' part.

[MyHorseAteTheKid]

This has been a Great Thread.... Been a lot of fun to follow!!

[Sisyphean Bills]

Well, sir, you basically put words into mine by suggesting that we all agree that Nix "bought high" on Fitz, which I don't agree with.

Sorry. I thought that's what you meant. I wasn't trying to pointedly contradict your post.

I made the point earlier that if Philly had a similar 'out' built into the Mike Vick deal, I would tend to think that, especially with Chip Kelly in there, they would have exercised the 'out' by now.

 

Hindsight obviously tells us all that Fitz didn't work out for us, but I was OK with the logic of the extension at the time of it based on the need to secure the guy we thought we finally found.

 

I agree that we disagree.

 

So, you were good with the logic the Bills employed to extend Dick Jauron after a run of victories as well, then?

[JohnC]

So, you were good with the logic the Bills employed to extend Dick Jauron after a run of victories as well, then?

 

With respect to the extension of Fitz there was nothing unreasonable with it assuming that there was a priority plan to get a legitimate qb prospect in the pipeline. The strategy for Nix should have been let's buy some time until we find a more credible franchise qb. The GM should have demonstrated a greater degree of urgency in that quest instead of being so passive in addressing an obvious critical need. What made the qb issue most frustrating is that the Nix regime passed on good prospects that were available after the first round, Kaepernick and Wilson.

 

The Dick Jauron extension was both a comical and sad exhibitiion of how dysfunctional this ludicrous franchise was. The organization gave him an extension yet refused to officially acknowledge that they even gave it to him because the team was on one of its standard losing streaks after the signing. Why the organization prematurely gave him an extension before his contract was up is a mystery to me. As you noted it probably was due to the team's early season success that frightened the $$$ conscious organization to expedite the extension so DJ wouldn't have greater negotiating leverage if the Bills had a good season. Regardless, it was one miscalulation added on to a mountain of miscalculations that has straitjacketed this franchise. To make matters worse Jauron was given more authority on personnel matters. Crazy!

 

In my opinion, to say or imply that Kelvin Sheppard is a capable/decent MLB is to basically say "I really never focused on him." With a lot of NFL work now on tape, the guy has made almost no plays of significance.

 

Last sunday, I watched the replay of the Bills-Vikes tilt. In just a few plays, I came away quite impressed with what I saw out of Arthur Moats, who was filling in for Kiko. He took on and shed blockers, he sniffed out and disrupted a screen play, and looked quick flowing to the plays that went toward the sideline.

 

So low and behold, Sunday Night Football brought us the Colts visiting the Giants. And for a time, I keyed in on #52 Sheppard, who saw some early snaps with the 1's. He was as plodding and as invisible as he ever looked for the 1.5 years he started for our beloved Bills. One play in particular sums him up ... a sweep to the defense's right, Sheppard, playing basically LILB, flows over unblocked, and is able to meet the RB Wilson about three yards upfield, but does not wrap/bring him down, and Wilson squirts loose for about five more yards.

 

Remember when Poz took the money and went down to play in Jax, and lots of people rationalized his loss by saying "aah, he made the majority of his tackes after ~7 yard gains anyways"? Well, I think it is fair to say that Paul Poszluzny was/is fifty times the NFL linebacker that Sheppard has proven to be.

 

If #52 starts for the Colts for any length of time, I will be shocked, but I doubt he will produce much. And if he gets Maybin-ed on cut-down day, I will not be very surprised at all. And regardless of what he does for Indy, any play that Jerry Hughes makes for Buffalo in 2013 will be a bonus, because getting Shepp off our roster is a perfect example of addition by subtraction. The move really gave me hope that Marrone and Pettine might actually know what the hell they are doing.

 

Excellent post. Well thought out and stated.

 

Well, I think it is fair to say that Paul Poszluzny was/is fifty times the NFL linebacker that Sheppard has proven to be.

 

I don't want to quibble with you but I disagree with your Paul P comparison. Paul P is 60 times a better player. A MLB without good instincts is like a surgeon who has clunky hands.

[artmalibu]

Its kind of funny no on talks about how we let Poz leave. He look pretty good when he played against us and wouldnt have cost the world to keep him!!!

 

But the Sheppard trade looks like it was a brilliant move. We got a player who looks like a play maker and will fit the pressure scheme well, and have upgraded the ilb position through draft and from within.

 

Good thing Buddy was asleep at the wheel.

[HankBulloughMellencamp]

Thanks for the compliments on the previous post - Sheppard was an enigma to me ... and Searcy is filling the vacancy more and more.

 

So, you were good with the logic the Bills employed to extend Dick Jauron after a run of victories as well, then?

 

So, you got all snippy earlier in the thread when I tried to put words in your mouth by quoting you. And yet you now decide to speak for me, out of left field, by concluding that my backing of the Fitz deal (at the time) equates to me also being sold on the logic of the Dick Jauron extension at that time?

 

Nice reach, but they are apples and oranges.

 

I have equated the Jauron extension more with the one that my alma-mater, UB, gave Jeff Quinn at the tail end of a theretofore unprecedented three-game win streak. And after which they were promptly crushed by a Bowling Green team coached by Dave Clawson, a former UB assistant back in my days there.

 

Coach Quinn's teams have often been out-executed, poorly prepared, and other than giving Georgia a fight for a half, have laid a lot of eggs in his three years. People I know who are familiar with the program have characterized him as basically a blowhard who has ridden Brian Kelly's coattails. Remember how well the Bearcats played in the 2010 Sugar Bowl he coached when Kelly had already jumped to ND? Cincinnati barely registered a pulse in that game against Florida; Tebow shredded them in Urb's final contest before re-evaluating things. Licata may save his arse, but there are no more excuses after this year.

 

So to me, a premature extension of a coach going nowhere is much different than paying your declared starting QB essentially market value for the position. And none of this has a whole lot to do with the merits of Kelvin Sheppard as an NFL linebacker.

 

By the way, speaking of declared starting QBs, Vick may have the Philly gig for now, but we all know his ribs will be bruised by week 3. And I will guarantee that Chip finds justification to somehow take a look-see at what either Foles or Barkley can do for his offense when regular season bullets are a-flying.

Edited August 24, 2013 by HankBulloughMellencamp

[BUNCH OF MULARKEY]

I think Jerry Hughes has been one of the best surprises defensively that we've had so far, second only to kiko.

You need second stringers that you can plug in there fresh that can wreak some havoc, ala mike lodish and and mark pike.

[Pete]

I think Jerry Hughes has been one of the best surprises defensively that we've had so far, second only to kiko.

You need second stringers that you can plug in there fresh that can wreak some havoc, ala mike lodish and and mark pike.

depth. This team has depth. We will have a legitimate 53 NFL roster for the first time in awhile

[Leelee Phoenix]

Its kind of funny no on talks about how we let Poz leave. He look pretty good when he played against us and wouldnt have cost the world to keep him!!!

Poz was among the worst LBs in the league last year.

 

BUF made the correct move in not paying him, no matter what scheme they wanted to use.

[Fortunesmith]

Poz was among the worst LBs in the league last year.

 

BUF made the correct move in not paying him, no matter what scheme they wanted to use.

 

Agreed. Poz frequently overruns plays and is horrendous is coverage. He's gotten no better since leaving Buffalo.