SuperBills12 Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 But will that future include Bledsoe as the starting QB? "I don't know," Kelly said. "Drew showed me how mentally tough he is by the way he pulled himself out of that early-season funk and bounced back. But I don't know if the Bills might decide it's time to go in a new direction." That decision will depend on whether Buffalo's deep thinkers believe rookie J.P Losman will be ready to take over next fall. "To be honest, if J.P. had been ready this year, they would have gone to him," Kelly said. "But I don't think J.P. is ready yet mentally. Physically, he has it all. He's got the arm strength, he's a good athlete who can move around and he's a tough kid. But I think it's still going to take time for him to develop the knowledge you need at this level. I do believe he's going to be a good one when he is ready." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch19079 Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 bledsoe lost his starting job after game 4. but injuries to JP kept him in, and he payed well enouph to keep his job. the last game vs. the steelers was HORRABLE. and he lost it again. if JP doesnt start the first game next season, he will start by week 3. i just hope he plays better than E. Manning. just limit INTs please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
envirojeff Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 IMHO If Losman starts, we all need to be prepared to make '05 another "rebuilding" year. The growing pains could cost the Bills a few early games if he pans out like we all hope. If I were GM, I'd start Bledsoe and keep a short leash on him. I've said in an earlier post that the fact that they went on a big winning streak instead of being eliminated early hurt more than it helped. Valuable time for Losman was lost and we may be paying for it in '05? Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 IMHO If Losman starts, we all need to be prepared to make '05 another "rebuilding" year. The growing pains could cost the Bills a few early games if he pans out like we all hope. If I were GM, I'd start Bledsoe and keep a short leash on him. I've said in an earlier post that the fact that they went on a big winning streak instead of being eliminated early hurt more than it helped. Valuable time for Losman was lost and we may be paying for it in '05? Jeff 200255[/snapback] So we're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't. right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
envirojeff Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 So we're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't. right? 200260[/snapback] I don't understand your question? My opinion on the topic is not to start JP. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I don't understand your question? My opinion on the topic is not to start JP. Jeff 200263[/snapback] Well - we are damned if we do start Losman because it'll be another rebuilding year. And we are damned if we don't start Losman, because the only way he'll end up playing is if we suck again. And we're doubly damned because we were not eliminated early this year... Is that what you were getting at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasoninMT Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I think that BuffNews article has it right... JP may get a shot to compete in training camp, but in the end, Bledsoe will more than likely start with JP as the backup.... I hope they try to keep Mathews as a backup too.... he was decent I thought. JP has the tools, but needs to get experience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
envirojeff Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 You don't agree that Losman needs to be game tested? All I'm saying is that if they had more of an opportunity to get him valuable playing time, it would be easier to get rid of Bledsoe. We can both agree that the string of wins will give them confidence for '05 and rightfully so, I'm just saying that it would have been nice to have seen more of Losman last year. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm73 Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 it irks me that the decision to keep bledsoe as our starting qb will probably depend on JPL's readiness and not on bledsoe's ability (or lack thereof) to lead this team. the decision, in my mind, should depend on DB. if he doesn't have it (and he has proven time and time again that he doesn't) then he shouldn't be our qb and they should let JP develop, even if that means taking some lumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 To me the thing is this..... If we KNOW (and by that I mean we as the organization) that Bledsoe is not the answer...and that eventually sometime in the year JPL will be starting...... Do you realize how much that is going to cost us in cap space? We are not talking about the Kurt Warner situation where he cost them friggen 2 million dollars.....exactly how much cap space is Drew going to eat up this next year for a backup QB? With the amount of money we could save on that we could go out and sign another offensive weapon, or another quality linemen, or possibly a pass rush specialist........ Just wanted to throw that out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBills12 Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 To me the thing is this..... If we KNOW (and by that I mean we as the organization) that Bledsoe is not the answer...and that eventually sometime in the year JPL will be starting...... Do you realize how much that is going to cost us in cap space? We are not talking about the Kurt Warner situation where he cost them friggen 2 million dollars.....exactly how much cap space is Drew going to eat up this next year for a backup QB? With the amount of money we could save on that we could go out and sign another offensive weapon, or another quality linemen, or possibly a pass rush specialist........ Just wanted to throw that out there great post, I agree with all your points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I'll add my 2¢ about a few things. 1st, in response to John's Cap space comment. From the #s I've seen, DB cost roughly $6.3m if we keep him, $4.3 if we cut him. Considering that any viable substitute would cost like $1m or more, we're only 'wasting' like $1m keeping him. As for next year having JPL start & his inexperience costing us a game or 2, yea it might. But then again, cosider that w/ DB at the helm, it appears that the best we can hope for from our offense is mediocrity, & his or at least the offense's in general, cost us several games this past season due to their ineptitude. I have little reason to think that'll improve next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I'll add my 2¢ about a few things. 1st, in response to John's Cap space comment. From the #s I've seen, DB cost roughly $6.3m if we keep him, $4.3 if we cut him. Considering that any viable substitute would cost like $1m or more, we're only 'wasting' like $1m keeping him. As for next year having JPL start & his inexperience costing us a game or 2, yea it might. But then again, cosider that w/ DB at the helm, it appears that the best we can hope for from our offense is mediocrity, & his or at least the offense's in general, cost us several games this past season due to their ineptitude. I have little reason to think that'll improve next season. 200371[/snapback] Thanks for the info Jaydee Another thing to consider is one of the reasons why you dont start a rookie QB is because you have to "dummy down" the offense for him.....you have to max protect....you have to make sure your defense can make up for the offensive mistakes he is going to make...... The problem with this whole scenario is WE DO THAT NOW....so what is the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBills12 Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 JP won't be a rookie next year....Reference Carson Palmer this year...Carson sat, learned, observed, then took over and had a great year... We have the benefit of Wyche, Mularky, Clements, and yes even Drew to help out in JP's developement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
envirojeff Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 JP won't be a rookie next year....Reference Carson Palmer this year...Carson sat, learned, observed, then took over and had a great year... We have the benefit of Wyche, Mularky, Clements, and yes even Drew to help out in JP's developement 200489[/snapback] Good point! Trust me I would love to see him start. I just don't think it's going to happen. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I'll add my 2¢ about a few things. 1st, in response to John's Cap space comment. From the #s I've seen, DB cost roughly $6.3m if we keep him, $4.3 if we cut him. Considering that any viable substitute would cost like $1m or more, we're only 'wasting' like $1m keeping him. As for next year having JPL start & his inexperience costing us a game or 2, yea it might. But then again, cosider that w/ DB at the helm, it appears that the best we can hope for from our offense is mediocrity, & his or at least the offense's in general, cost us several games this past season due to their ineptitude. I have little reason to think that'll improve next season. 200371[/snapback] That's why I keep Bledsoe. Not necessarily as the starter but at least as a backup. Let the two of them battle it our in the preseason. There's no reason to cut Bledsoe it won't save us much if anything after bringing in another vet to backup up Losman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 That's why I keep Bledsoe. Not necessarily as the starter but at least as a backup. Let the two of them battle it our in the preseason. There's no reason to cut Bledsoe it won't save us much if anything after bringing in another vet to backup up Losman. 200559[/snapback] I would love to have them fight it out during camp/preseason for the starting job. However, my feeling is DB might want out (traded to another team where he can start), if he is not guaranteed a starting spot. The guy has a few more years in the league and he might want to end it on a starting job (i.e., retire on his own accord) rather than be pushed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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