QB competition

[Braedenstearns]

What do y'all think the position of the QBs are going to be this year?

 

I think

 

1. Manuel

2. Tuel or Kolb

3. The one that doesn't get the #2 spot.

 

Tuel looks pretty good, and Kolb is looking good also.

 

Cut.

Aaron Corp

Tarvaris Jackson

 

 

[Kelly the Dog]

At first I thought that whoever wins the battle between Kolb and Tarvaris would stay and the other cut, and maybe Corp would stay on as #3.

 

Now I kind of think that Kolb starts, EJ is the back-up and may take over during the season. And TJax is #3 with Tuel on the PS. TJax may ask for his release if he is #3. But it depends on how far Manuel progresses in camp. Kolb could get hurt and Marrone go with TJax until Manuel is ready.

[swnybillsfan]

what i'd like to see

1. i'd love to see manuel win the starting job and have it not be close.

2. whoever wins the competition of kolb and jackson.

3. i'm assuming it would be tuel over corp.

 

what i think i'll see

1. kolb with the starting job early

2. manuel behind kolb learning and maybe getting spot/mop up duty until ready to start.

3. still assuming tuel over corp.

 

bottom line is i would love to see manuel take the starting job from the beginning and not let go. however, with kolb or jackson as the starting veteran qb, the coaches can bring manuel along at his own pace, whatever that may be. at least, until we are losing and the fans are screaming for the rookie.

[Chandler#81]

Back in the good-ole-days, Manuel would sit and learn. Not the case anymore in the NFL. Yes, it's ENTIRELY up to EJ, but if he shines from this day on @ OBD, go with him. Tavaris Jackson? Really?? Kolb is Fitz2, quality backup. Whatever, on the other 2... It's a brand new regime with a brand new, tweaked WCO. He who shows best, plays.

 

I really don't think they Drafted Manuel with the thought that he'll begin to realize his upside ridin' the pine behind Kolb. Not in this town, with this dozen years of futility. They'd throw away another season with either of the vet QB's at the helm and further delay EJ's learning curve. For better or worse, play the kid in HIS new offense.

 

JMO

[Kelly the Dog]

Back in the good-ole-days, Manuel would sit and learn. Not the case anymore in the NFL. Yes, it's ENTIRELY up to EJ, but if he shines from this day on @ OBD, go with him. Tavaris Jackson? Really?? Kolb is Fitz2, quality backup. Whatever, on the other 2... It's a brand new regime with a brand new, tweaked WCO. He who shows best, plays.

 

I really don't think they Drafted Manuel with the thought that he'll begin to realize his upside ridin' the pine behind Kolb. Not in this town, with this dozen years of futility. They'd throw away another season with either of the vet QB's at the helm and further delay EJ's learning curve. For better or worse, play the kid in HIS new offense.

 

JMO

I don't think you know until you get him into camp and preseason. In recent examples Luck and RGIII and Russell Wilson all played well right from the start. But they were further advanced. Kaep may be a better example and he sat for the year.

 

I think that Marrone and Hackett probably don't know at all themselves. It matters how well Kolb looks and how quickly EJ picks it up. I think Kolb starts but it could go either way.

[NoSaint]

At first I thought that whoever wins the battle between Kolb and Tarvaris would stay and the other cut, and maybe Corp would stay on as #3.

 

Now I kind of think that Kolb starts, EJ is the back-up and may take over during the season. And TJax is #3 with Tuel on the PS. TJax may ask for his release if he is #3. But it depends on how far Manuel progresses in camp. Kolb could get hurt and Marrone go with TJax until Manuel is ready.

More or less. We will not have a UDFA at #2 as the OP suggests. When they say a prospect like tuel looks good it means he might challenge for a roster spot, maybe.

[Lurker]

I don't think you know until you get him into camp and preseason. In recent examples Luck and RGIII and Russell Wilson all played well right from the start. But they were further advanced. Kaep may be a better example and he sat for the year.

 

I think that Marrone and Hackett probably don't know at all themselves. It matters how well Kolb looks and how quickly EJ picks it up. I think Kolb starts but it could go either way.

I think it will depend on how the whole team looks. If it takes a while for the new offense to jell, then Kolb's the guy. If somehow it clicks right a way, and the defense at least looks average, I could see Manuel taking over early.

 

I don't want another Gabbert situation, where the team drags the QB down. More a Kap or Wilson situation, where EJ can get comfortable and won't have to shoulder the entire load out of the gate...

[Malazan]

The only thing I know about the QBs is this...if EJ doesn't win the job and sits for a year, there will be monumental bitching.

 

If he does win it, there will be monumental bitching.

[KeisterHollow]

This is not your Grandfather's NFL! Kidding aside, I think there's a good chance Manuel starts for us. It really depends on what Marrone's expectations are for this season. That's a nice thing about our QB situation - whoever starts for us at the beginning of the season says a lot about our H.C.'s genuine expectations.

 

If the Bills want to win this year - if they're going into this season expecting to try to win the Super Bowl, and they believe that, then they'll probably start Kolb - unless Manuel or someone else simply lights it up during training camp. If things unfold the way most would expect, and Manuel needs a year or so to get acclimated to the NFL, then they'd be better off starting Kolb if they want to win.

 

However, if they are going about the year more like they just want to put together the roster the way they like it, and then let them play, and let the young guys learn on the job, and if they lose - well, no one expected them to win it all anyway. So, unless EJ Manuel is reportedly the best QB throughout camp, his starting the year would indicate to me their priority isn't necessarily to win the Super Bowl THIS YEAR, but to let Manuel and the team build chemistry and experience right off.

 

Honestly, I think I'd rather we let Manuel play - if he's able to pick it up quick enough - and just let him get the growing pains out of the way. Doesn't it seem like he's going to have to go through that rocky start no matter when he starts?

 

On another note - I've watched some video of Tuel, and I really like what I see. That kid has an arm! Actually, he reminds me of Manuel in terms of size and mobility, and arm strength. I think it was a good move picking him up, because our offense shouldn't have to change much or adapt to him, if ever he's called on to play.

[Bills Fan888]

At first I thought that whoever wins the battle between Kolb and Tarvaris would stay and the other cut, and maybe Corp would stay on as #3.

 

Now I kind of think that Kolb starts, EJ is the back-up and may take over during the season. And TJax is #3 with Tuel on the PS. TJax may ask for his release if he is #3. But it depends on how far Manuel progresses in camp. Kolb could get hurt and Marrone go with TJax until Manuel is ready.

Ya, I'm pretty sure they decided to keep T-Jax because of Kolb's injury history and that they will start him over EJ if Kolb goes down.Unless EJ pulls a Russell Wilson, he won't be starting for a year or two.

[atlbillsfan1975]

Kolb

EJ

Tuel.

TJax gets cut/asks for his release.

Corp cut.

Kolb plays well behind the Bills line and with the running game he has in Buffalo. Bills make the playoffs

Kolb is starter next season till he gets injuried. EJ comes in and takes the Bills to the SB. The Bills win the SB over the Pack! Ha

[Max997]

What do y'all think the position of the QBs are going to be this year?

 

I think

 

1. Manuel

2. Tuel or Kolb

3. The one that doesn't get the #2 spot.

 

Tuel looks pretty good, and Kolb is looking good also.

 

Cut.

Aaron Corp

Tarvaris Jackson

 

So you think the Bills are going to start a rookie that everyone including them has said is basically a project and then back him up with an undrafted rookie? WOW

 

Kolb is going to start and will most if not the entire year. Manuel will be the backup and TJax will be #3 with Tuel potentially on the PS

[Phlegm Alley]

The Bills just drafted a QB in the 1st Round...He is going to be starting on Opening Day. If he does great, awesome. If not, the front office still can play the "the QB class was a weak one this year", and hopefully, move on knowing they still picked up a couple of potential starters in this draft. If EJ shows no progress, bide your time until the Bills are drafting in the top 10 for a draft that has a lot of QB talent, and try it all over again.

[San Jose Bills Fan]

So you think the Bills are going to start a rookie that everyone including them has said is basically a project and then back him up with an undrafted rookie?

 

I agree that the backup won't be an undrafted rookie.

 

But can you tell me where the Bills "basically said that EJ is a project?"

[Dorkington]

I'm of two minds if EJ should start right away or not. I think he seems poised enough to take early lumps and still grow, so I'm generally a fan of him being handed the reigns. Kolb and TJ make 2 and 3, the UDFA guy is camp fodder.

[Braedenstearns]

 

 

So you think the Bills are going to start a rookie that everyone including them has said is basically a project and then back him up with an undrafted rookie? WOW

 

Kolb is going to start and will most if not the entire year. Manuel will be the backup and TJax will be #3 with Tuel potentially on the PS

 

I'm sure that's what they said about Russel Wilson, " hes a 3rd rounder he wont start he will be the #3" Where is he now? It doesn't matter the round!

[Max997]

 

 

I agree that the backup won't be an undrafted rookie.

 

But can you tell me where the Bills "basically said that EJ is a project?"

 

First of all I said they basically said he was a project

 

If you bothered to listen to interviews with Marrone one of the first things he mentioned was how EJ was the backup to Ponder and how well he handled it, then said all the usual stuff that he would need to work on but also talked about how at FSU he was only asked to read one side of the field so he will need to learn how to read the entire field in the NFL

 

Manuel may end up starting towards the end of the year if the bills are out of it but he certainly won't be starting week 1

[maverick544]

My prediction is Kolb starts this entire season unless he is injured or the team really is struggling. EJ will be learning the ropes and improving on himself, TJack or Corp will be cut. I think Corp will more likely be that guy as TJack may be able to assist EJ with the clipboard being a mobile QB Vet himself. On the flip side I can also see TJack going and Corp staying from a management and salary perspective.

 

1. Kolb

2. EJ

3. TJack

 

All and all, I want to see what Kolb has offer; he is a RD 2 QB (@36) with a 78.9 QB Rating after 19 games. It seems everytime he gets going, he gets smashed in the head and knocked out and let go because of contractual reasons.

 

GIve the guy a chance, he might be the man.

Edited April 29, 2013 by maverick544

[Green Lightning]

I'd rather they start the kids and let them grow together. We'd take some lumps early on but be the better for it later.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Now I kind of think that Kolb starts, EJ is the back-up and may take over during the season. And TJax is #3 with Tuel on the PS. TJax may ask for his release if he is #3. But it depends on how far Manuel progresses in camp. Kolb could get hurt and Marrone go with TJax until Manuel is ready.

 

I think you got it. Kolb starts unless he gets hurt in preseason. TJax is the insurance policy and likely takes over if Kolb gets hurt early. EJ may play sometime during the season, or he may be kept on the bench a year to watch 'n learn. The worst thing they could do to EJ is throw him into the fire before he's ready. Whichever is the better of Corp or Tuel may stay on the practice squad.

 

I'd rather they start the kids and let them grow together. We'd take some lumps early on but be the better for it later.

 

(shakes head) no way man. The last thing you want is to start a young QB before he's solid in his reads and his progressions. He starts hearing footsteps and looking over his shoulder instead of downfield. That disease has plagued Kolb. We don't want EJ to catch it.