pretzel logic Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 EJ Has a cannon arm and had the 2nd highest wonderlic test score in the NFL draft! Last year 27 tds, 10 int and 68% completion %..............................You think he isnt a bonafide 16 th overall pick??????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 You are treating every qb as if they were the same. Perhaps the reason they didn't take a qb is because ej was the only one they liked. Just because they didn't take a qb doesn't mean they wouldn't have taken ej Yeah right, all the teams wanted the 5th rated QB in the draft... Seriously, I like the player, just not where he was picked. This team still has way to many holes to be selecting a developmental QB in the first round. EJ just might need to sit for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Good read: http://mattwaldmanrs...-qb-e-j-manuel/ Yea, I liked the part about "I imagine Manuel will be considered as a player available somewhere in the late-second to fourth round." I like the player, just not where he was picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Apparently "panic" is the catch word of the draft this year. It is in multiple threads. Very funny but trading down for extra picks and still getting the guy you want is the complete opposite of panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Yeah right, all the teams wanted the 5th rated QB in the draft... Seriously, I like the player, just not where he was picked. This team still has way to many holes to be selecting a developmental QB in the first round. EJ just might need to sit for a year. Ratings? Don't you think that ratings on this draft class should be thrown out the window by now considering what's happened in these first three rounds? I think the media and fans are very confused after what they've been hearing these last few months. The EJ Manuel draft pick reminds me of what a successful professional organization like the Giants would do if they were in the Bills situation. Pick the prototypical QB who's very smart, has the big arm, has great athletic ability, and the one who has the highest ceiling. Then let your coaches do their thing and coach him up and into a becoming franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 So a game where the defense can't blitz and can only run one front is his biggest game? Really? I would disagree and say the last game of his Senior year against his biggest rival, Florida, in Talley was just a bit bigger. UF came in ranked #4 and If FSU, who only had one loss, wins that game they leap frog everybody and only need a loss by ND to possibly get into the championship game. EJ choked. EJ's line? 3 ints and a fumble. That's his biggest game of his career and everybody watching has seen this act from EJ in big games before. The talent on FSU is enough to beat anybody in the country but their QB could never put them on his back and win a game by himself (See NCst game). I'm not rooting for him to fail but I think this pick is another in a long line of gaffs by this joke of a FO headed by king moron Buddy Nix. FWIW, I loved the Marone pick and defended him. I can't do the same with EJ. you mean the senior bowl where nassib couldn't complete a 2 yard pass and then threw and INT and now is still waiting to have his name called? your 'hating' is a little extreme here. heres to you being dead wrong again.............jimmy claussen fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertown Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Yeah right, all the teams wanted the 5th rated QB in the draft... Seriously, I like the player, just not where he was picked. This team still has way to many holes to be selecting a developmental QB in the first round. EJ just might need to sit for a year. 5th rated by whom? The same people that had Sharrif Floydd as the best DT or Eddie Lacey as the top R/B? Just because you read it online or some dude with gelled up hair and a nice suit told you it was so. DOESN'T ACTUALLY MEAN ANYTHING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrod81 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 If the Bills think EJ is the future of the franchise they could also be making a smart financial move by taking him in the first round. They have the 5th year option at a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_want_2_BILL_Lieve Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 (edited) Yeah right, all the teams wanted the 5th rated QB in the draft... Clearly he was not the 5th rated QB on the Bills board. No other QBs were taken so they got their guy. And who are the other QBs on the board rated higher EJ? Barkley and Nassib? That is not how the draft is playing out. OBD did a nice job. Got some extra picks, didn't get too cute by trading down again. And selected the #1 QB on their board. Going into the draft I was not focused on EJ. I would have been fine with Barkley or Nassib - at the 8th or even 16th pick.. That sure looks foolish now. They were rated in the top 5 of all mock draft boards that I saw. Nix didn't trade back again and have to select the 2nd QB off the board and then claim, ".... he was our guy all along." We wouldn't have believed him and we would have been screaming that Nix screwed us again. Well played Buddy. But OBD has no excuses now. You got the guy you wanted. Now we'll see if the coaching staff is as good as they claim. Edited April 27, 2013 by I_want_2_BILL_Lieve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 There were those who yelled " if you like the guy take him at 8 " They found THE guy and gained picks. Then give him 2 WRs to throw to that were a need position. Oh and a linebacker who could replace Shepp and a need position. DOOMED !? or Well played Mr. Nix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Yeah right, all the teams wanted the 5th rated QB in the draft... Seriously, I like the player, just not where he was picked. This team still has way to many holes to be selecting a developmental QB in the first round. EJ just might need to sit for a year. And Glennon was the 3rd rated QB in this draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 It's pretty obvious from listening to Manuel speak in interviews and press conferences after he was drafted that he wanted to be a Buffalo Bill all along. However, I think it is also telling that before the draft he said "They really want me" in regards to the Philadelphia Eagles. I think that may have really been a message to Buffalo that the Bills had better select him in the first round because he wasn't going to still be there the next time the Bills picked. Had he wanted to be an Eagle instead, Manuel may well have emphasized to the media how much the Bills really wanted to select him, instead, thus spurring the Eagles to make whatever moves necessary to obtain him, short of taking him at #3. I could be wrong, of course, but it's just a thought. In any event, I'm glad he was selected by Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy G Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I actually think Philly may have jumped us if we pressed our luck and traded down too many slots in the 1st. Then we would have panicked and taken Nassib super early- we all know how that is playing out. I'm glad we didn't gamble further and got our guy. Let it play out, peeps I agree, everyone thinks they know better, but these days, if you snooze, you lose, way wait if you really like a guy, take him, or someone else will.. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 We could've traded back a bit further probably and taken him at the end of the 1st round and gathered up more picks. This was a boneheaded pick if you ask me. I thought about doing this, especially since no one behind us in the 1st would be drafting a QB. The problem with this is that a QB needy team could have traded back into the 1st to grab him. If the Bills felt so highly on him, it was smart to take him where they did. That said, the Bills should draft another one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Love the comments from all of the GMs-in-training on this board who know precisely what would or would not have transpired in every trade-down or trade-up scenario involving all 32 teams. I mean, some reasonable speculation is fine, but the "it was a panic move" crap is ridiculous. Three years from now, if EJ Manuel is a top-ten QB and the Bills are a regular playoff team, will anyone really think drafting him at #16 was a "reach?" People are funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 (edited) 3-5 years down the road, we will look back at this draft and see that only about 10-12 of the first rounders are still in the league. Same for every year. If there's somebody you think is a true NFL player, take him. It doesnt matter much where you take him. Come out of the draft with as many true NFL players as you can. For QB, the stakes go up. If there's a qb you think is a franchise player, take him at 8. The fact that they gambled down to 16 shows true moxy and draft prep. But dont fuc$ around twice. Get your guy. Edited April 27, 2013 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Typical response from an all time Polly. Can I not give my point of view in response to the EJ jerkfest? I was doing a lot of defending the day Marrone was announced as head coach so does that cancel out my opinion on EJ? Or do I still lose my fan card? I'm not happy when I'm right regarding the Bills. It's really not that hard when it comes to the Bills. It's like betting against the table in craps,it usually wins but you're never popular with the the losers. Dude, the fact you specifically set up your signature to make fun of optimistic fans is a dead giveaway. You're miserable. I will NEVER apologize for being optimistic and looking for the bright side of things with respect to the teams I root for. And that's all I have to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberyn Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Wow, there is a serious fallacy rampant on this board. EJ, Barkley, and Nassib are not all equal. Just because ESPN told you that doesn't mean it is true. Did you hear McShay (the dumbest guy in any room he is in) backtrack on Nassib yesterday??? Said he was really a late 2nd to 4th round guy that everyone just bumped up because of "the obvious bills connection." So even ESPN is now backing off their claim that all three were equal. EJ was far better. Just because no one traded up for Nassib or Barkley doesn't mean no one would have for EJ. Jax would have, Arizona might have (the guy is a lot like Big Ben), Eagles would have. Guys, I am the first to criticize Jerry Sullivan, but go read his article from Friday. Best one I have read on the Bills choosing EJ. The Bills finally took a QB who puts them on the cutting edge of what the NFL is now in terms of Offesive Scheming, instead of being 2 or 3 steps behind. If we don' get EJ and settle for Barkley or Nassib, that would show business as usual at OBD, and we would be bidding our time til the next coaching change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Wow, there is a serious fallacy rampant on this board. EJ, Barkley, and Nassib are not all equal. Just because ESPN told you that doesn't mean it is true. Did you hear McShay (the dumbest guy in any room he is in) backtrack on Nassib yesterday??? Said he was really a late 2nd to 4th round guy that everyone just bumped up because of "the obvious bills connection." So even ESPN is now backing off their claim that all three were equal. EJ was far better. Just because no one traded up for Nassib or Barkley doesn't mean no one would have for EJ. Jax would have, Arizona might have (the guy is a lot like Big Ben), Eagles would have. Guys, I am the first to criticize Jerry Sullivan, but go read his article from Friday. Best one I have read on the Bills choosing EJ. The Bills finally took a QB who puts them on the cutting edge of what the NFL is now in terms of Offesive Scheming, instead of being 2 or 3 steps behind. If we don' get EJ and settle for Barkley or Nassib, that would show business as usual at OBD, and we would be bidding our time til the next coaching change. You are right, Nassib and Barkley might be more NFL ready to start then EJ currently is, and those guys are still there in the 4th round. EJ is a project QB and will need a lot of developmental time to learn how to be a prototypical pocket QB, at least a year or more. He won't start right away unless of course the Bills build an offense (read option) just for him. EJ might have a bigger upside then any other QB in this years draft is why the Bills took him IMO. But everything will depend on how he is developed. Looking at the history of this team and how they have handled rookie / young QB's in the past. It shows me that they will force that young QB to try and put the game on his shoulders to win it. Rather then building a dominate power running game, and let the QB manage the game while learning his craft, AKA Ravens & Joe Flacco. I like the player, just not where he was picked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Dude, the fact you specifically set up your signature to make fun of optimistic fans is a dead giveaway. You're miserable. I will NEVER apologize for being optimistic and looking for the bright side of things with respect to the teams I root for. And that's all I have to say about that. You have to admit, though... "All Time Pollys" would be an excellent name for a band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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